[arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML 2014-21

Rudolph Daniel rudi.daniel at gmail.com
Fri Jan 9 13:31:15 EST 2015


Thinking, .....since 2014-21 deals with critical infrastructure, and we are
at the ipv4 runout stage that we are at, is it not expeditious for Arin  to
reserve the new requirement pursuant to the process of  implementation in
the light of little or no expected challenge to the proposal?

RD
On Jan 9, 2015 2:01 PM, <arin-ppml-request at arin.net> wrote:

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Draft Policy ARIN-2014-21: Modification to CI Pool    Size
      per Section 4.4 (John Curran)
   2. Weekly posting summary for ppml at arin.net (Thomas Narten)
   3. Re: Draft Policy ARIN-2014-21: Modification to CI Pool Size
      per Section 4.4 (Leo Vegoda)
   4. Re: Draft Policy ARIN-2014-21: Modification to CI Pool    Size
      per Section 4.4 (Owen DeLong)
   5. Re: Draft Policy ARIN-2014-21: Modification to CI Pool Size
      per Section 4.4 (John Curran)
   6. Re: Draft Policy ARIN-2014-21: Modification to CI Pool    Size
      per Section 4.4 (John Curran)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 04:51:22 +0000
From: John Curran <jcurran at arin.net>
To: Martin J Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com>
Cc: "arin-ppml at arin.net" <arin-ppml at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-21: Modification to CI
        Pool    Size per Section 4.4
Message-ID: <E9BCA40E-08DA-4EA2-8C3E-D577DF35BCC8 at corp.arin.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Dec 25, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll point this list at a public viewable URL to a proper thread there.
Not sure why people need to actually subscribe, either way. I also can't
force (and won't advocate) people to waste their time like that on either
list.
>
> There are AC members there. They too can report their observations back
to the Politburo. I'm sure you'll be well informed.

Martin -

Insights are welcome from any source, and particularly from those who
have operational experience germane to the number resource policy
under consideration.  If the only goal is having these insights considered
during discussion, then having yourself or an AC member bring those
points they feel relevant to the PPML discussion should suffice.

As I have noted earlier, to the extent that OIX participants wish their
support to be included in the discussion summary counts, that will
require them to actually participate in the discussion on the Public
Policy Mailing List (as per the ARIN Policy Development Process.)

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN



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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 00:53:02 -0500
From: Thomas Narten <narten at us.ibm.com>
To: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: [arin-ppml] Weekly posting summary for ppml at arin.net
Message-ID: <201501090553.t095r2xY006268 at rotala.raleigh.ibm.com>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 16:27:17 +0000
From: Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org>
To: Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com>, David Farmer
        <farmer at umn.edu>
Cc: ARIN-PPML List <arin-ppml at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-21: Modification to CI
        Pool Size per Section 4.4
Message-ID:
        <5daefc653f57495b80f3c616a621dee0 at PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG
>
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Hi Scott,

Scott Leibrand wrote:

> How much is ARIN going to get from the next round of IANA returned space
> distribution?  It's more than a /16, isn't it?

If the pool does not change, which could happen if additional space was
returned to it, or if additional IETF assignments are made, each RIR should
receive a /13. The software used to make the allocations is freely available
from github.com/icann.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 09:31:26 -0800
From: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
To: Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org>
Cc: ARIN-PPML List <arin-ppml at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-21: Modification to CI
        Pool    Size per Section 4.4
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In any case, there is at minimum a /13, right? There?s no possibility for
the pool to shrink
between now and then if I understand things correctly.

Owen

> On Jan 9, 2015, at 08:27 , Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> Scott Leibrand wrote:
>
>> How much is ARIN going to get from the next round of IANA returned space
>> distribution?  It's more than a /16, isn't it?
>
> If the pool does not change, which could happen if additional space was
> returned to it, or if additional IETF assignments are made, each RIR
should
> receive a /13. The software used to make the allocations is freely
available
> from github.com/icann.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Leo Vegoda
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 17:53:50 +0000
From: John Curran <jcurran at arin.net>
To: Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org>, Scott Leibrand
        <scottleibrand at gmail.com>
Cc: ARIN-PPML List <arin-ppml at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-21: Modification to CI
        Pool Size per Section 4.4
Message-ID: <B9B8EFB2-9DF0-4F1B-A135-FA5F2438E311 at corp.arin.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Jan 9, 2015, at 8:27 AM, Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda at icann.org> wrote:
>
>> How much is ARIN going to get from the next round of IANA returned space
>> distribution?  It's more than a /16, isn't it?
>
> If the pool does not change, which could happen if additional space was
> returned to it, or if additional IETF assignments are made, each RIR
should
> receive a /13. The software used to make the allocations is freely
available
> from github.com/icann.

Leo -

  Excellent - it's good to have that estimate for policy development
  rather than just my recollection!

Thanks again!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN




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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 18:00:35 +0000
From: John Curran <jcurran at arin.net>
To: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
Cc: ARIN-PPML List <arin-ppml at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-21: Modification to CI
        Pool    Size per Section 4.4
Message-ID: <24071A15-D60D-4229-952B-A03526C49DB6 at corp.arin.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

On Jan 9, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>
> In any case, there is at minimum a /13, right? There?s no possibility for
the pool to shrink
> between now and then if I understand things correctly.

It is possible for the IETF to make protocol assignments out of the
unallocated
unicast IPv4 address space.  These are generally very small assignments and
unlikely to affect any redistribution outcome (but it is a remote
possibility.)

FYI,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN


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