<p dir="ltr">Thinking, .....since 2014-21 deals with critical infrastructure, and we are at the ipv4 runout stage that we are at, is it not expeditious for Arin to reserve the new requirement pursuant to the process of implementation in the light of little or no expected challenge to the proposal?</p>
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1. Re: Draft Policy ARIN-2014-21: Modification to CI Pool Size<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 04:51:22 +0000<br>
From: John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net">jcurran@arin.net</a>><br>
To: Martin J Hannigan <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com">hannigan@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: "<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-21: Modification to CI<br>
Pool Size per Section 4.4<br>
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On Dec 25, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Martin Hannigan <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com">hannigan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I'll point this list at a public viewable URL to a proper thread there. Not sure why people need to actually subscribe, either way. I also can't force (and won't advocate) people to waste their time like that on either list.<br>
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> There are AC members there. They too can report their observations back to the Politburo. I'm sure you'll be well informed.<br>
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Martin -<br>
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Insights are welcome from any source, and particularly from those who<br>
have operational experience germane to the number resource policy<br>
under consideration. If the only goal is having these insights considered<br>
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Thanks!<br>
/John<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 00:53:02 -0500<br>
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 16:27:17 +0000<br>
From: Leo Vegoda <<a href="mailto:leo.vegoda@icann.org">leo.vegoda@icann.org</a>><br>
To: Scott Leibrand <<a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com">scottleibrand@gmail.com</a>>, David Farmer<br>
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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-21: Modification to CI<br>
Pool Size per Section 4.4<br>
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Hi Scott,<br>
<br>
Scott Leibrand wrote:<br>
<br>
> How much is ARIN going to get from the next round of IANA returned space<br>
> distribution? It's more than a /16, isn't it?<br>
<br>
If the pool does not change, which could happen if additional space was<br>
returned to it, or if additional IETF assignments are made, each RIR should<br>
receive a /13. The software used to make the allocations is freely available<br>
from <a href="http://github.com/icann" target="_blank">github.com/icann</a>.<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
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Leo Vegoda<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 09:31:26 -0800<br>
From: Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com">owen@delong.com</a>><br>
To: Leo Vegoda <<a href="mailto:leo.vegoda@icann.org">leo.vegoda@icann.org</a>><br>
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Pool Size per Section 4.4<br>
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In any case, there is at minimum a /13, right? There?s no possibility for the pool to shrink<br>
between now and then if I understand things correctly.<br>
<br>
Owen<br>
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> On Jan 9, 2015, at 08:27 , Leo Vegoda <<a href="mailto:leo.vegoda@icann.org">leo.vegoda@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Scott,<br>
><br>
> Scott Leibrand wrote:<br>
><br>
>> How much is ARIN going to get from the next round of IANA returned space<br>
>> distribution? It's more than a /16, isn't it?<br>
><br>
> If the pool does not change, which could happen if additional space was<br>
> returned to it, or if additional IETF assignments are made, each RIR should<br>
> receive a /13. The software used to make the allocations is freely available<br>
> from <a href="http://github.com/icann" target="_blank">github.com/icann</a>.<br>
><br>
> Kind regards,<br>
><br>
> Leo Vegoda<br>
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 17:53:50 +0000<br>
From: John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net">jcurran@arin.net</a>><br>
To: Leo Vegoda <<a href="mailto:leo.vegoda@icann.org">leo.vegoda@icann.org</a>>, Scott Leibrand<br>
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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-21: Modification to CI<br>
Pool Size per Section 4.4<br>
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On Jan 9, 2015, at 8:27 AM, Leo Vegoda <<a href="mailto:leo.vegoda@icann.org">leo.vegoda@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> How much is ARIN going to get from the next round of IANA returned space<br>
>> distribution? It's more than a /16, isn't it?<br>
><br>
> If the pool does not change, which could happen if additional space was<br>
> returned to it, or if additional IETF assignments are made, each RIR should<br>
> receive a /13. The software used to make the allocations is freely available<br>
> from <a href="http://github.com/icann" target="_blank">github.com/icann</a>.<br>
<br>
Leo -<br>
<br>
Excellent - it's good to have that estimate for policy development<br>
rather than just my recollection!<br>
<br>
Thanks again!<br>
/John<br>
<br>
John Curran<br>
President and CEO<br>
ARIN<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 18:00:35 +0000<br>
From: John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net">jcurran@arin.net</a>><br>
To: Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com">owen@delong.com</a>><br>
Cc: ARIN-PPML List <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-21: Modification to CI<br>
Pool Size per Section 4.4<br>
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On Jan 9, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> In any case, there is at minimum a /13, right? There?s no possibility for the pool to shrink<br>
> between now and then if I understand things correctly.<br>
<br>
It is possible for the IETF to make protocol assignments out of the unallocated<br>
unicast IPv4 address space. These are generally very small assignments and<br>
unlikely to affect any redistribution outcome (but it is a remote possibility.)<br>
<br>
FYI,<br>
/John<br>
<br>
John Curran<br>
President and CEO<br>
ARIN<br>
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