[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-8: Reassignment records for IPv4 End-Users

Gary T. Giesen ggiesen at giesen.me
Fri Aug 28 16:15:52 EDT 2015


John,

And if every ISP starts becoming an end-user because they can now submit
reassignment records and ARIN goes broke because they've lost X% (X = not
insignificant) of their revenue, how useful will the registry be then?

I'm supportive of reassignment records for end users, for things like better
geolocation, dividing between their departments, facilitating usage
counting, etc. But if they are reselling them they are an ISP and should
bear the cost of that rather than pushing it down to other end users who are
not directly deriving revenue from limited IP resources.

 My $0.02 (and then some)

Cheers,

GTG

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of John Curran
> Sent: August 28, 2015 4:06 PM
> To: Gary T. Giesen; Andrew Dul
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net List
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-8: Reassignment records
for
> IPv4 End-Users
> 
> On Aug 28, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Gary T. Giesen <ggiesen at giesen.me> wrote:
> > Not to beat a dead horse, but I think if an org wants to (or is
> > required to) make assignments to entities that don't fit that
> > definition, then they should apply for an ISP block (or have their
> > existing block converted) and pay the appropriate fees, and allow the
> > rest of us to keep end-user fees low.
> 
> We have had a handful of organizations switch from end-user to ISP for the
> purposes of being able to put in reassignment records (e.g. to improve the
> usefulness of geolocation), but it is almost certain that others having
avoided
> such a change due to the cost implications.
> 
> In the end, the community has to consider the indirect financial benefit
vs
> the implied reduction in usefulness of the registry that results when
parties
> seek to avoid paying same.
> 
> Thanks,
> /John
> 
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
> 
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