[arin-ppml] Smalest ISP v6 Allocation
pmcnary at cameron.net
Fri Aug 14 20:45:38 EDT 2015
+1 What Mike is saying!
On 8/14/2015 7:03 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> *nods* I think a lot of times people forget about the little ISP that
> only has a /23 of IPv4. Heck, I know one guy that owns at least a half
> dozen ISPs, none of them more than 1k customers, most under 300. I
> think people get caught up in the scale of global carriers, nationwide
> ISPs, etc.
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> *From: *"David Farmer" <farmer at umn.edu>
> *To: *"Mike Hammett" <arin at ics-il.net>
> *Cc: *arin-ppml at arin.net
> *Sent: *Friday, August 14, 2015 8:13:26 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [arin-ppml] Smalest ISP v6 Allocation
> On Aug 14, 2015, at 05:19, Mike Hammett <arin at ics-il.net
> <mailto:arin at ics-il.net>> wrote:
> If the smallest IPv6 allocation an ISP can get is a /36 (X-small
> or up to /20 in IPv4), but we have a fee established for XX-small
> (up to /40 IPv6 and /22 IPv4), why don't we permit an ISP to get a
> /40? Small providers may not want to increase their ARIN fees to
> simply be able to get their own IPv6 allocation. Seems
> counter-intuitive in getting everyone on the IPv6 train. It also
> falls on a clean boundary, so there shouldn't be any concerns with
> issued subnets.
> If there's no good reason why we're not doing this, how to we
> start the process to allow this?
> A little more than two years ago we considered a policy to do just that;
> Draft Policy ARIN-2013-3: Tiny IPv6 Allocations for ISPs
> The consensus at the time was that a /40 was too small for an ISP and
> that we should reconsider the fee structure instead. That has been in
> process with the fee committee that was discussed previously.
> However, if there is a new consensus in support of allowing ISPs to
> receive a /40, I'd recommend the text of ARIN-2013-3 as a starting point.
> David Farmer Email: farmer at umn.edu <mailto:farmer at umn.edu>
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