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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">+1 What Mike is saying!<br>
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On 8/14/2015 7:03 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:<br>
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10pt; color: #000000">*nods* I think a lot of times people
forget about the little ISP that only has a /23 of IPv4. Heck, I
know one guy that owns at least a half dozen ISPs, none of them
more than 1k customers, most under 300. I think people get
caught up in the scale of global carriers, nationwide ISPs, etc.<br>
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Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"David
Farmer" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:farmer@umn.edu"><farmer@umn.edu></a><br>
<b>To: </b>"Mike Hammett" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:arin@ics-il.net"><arin@ics-il.net></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, August 14, 2015 8:13:26 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [arin-ppml] Smalest ISP v6 Allocation<br>
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<div>On Aug 14, 2015, at 05:19, Mike Hammett <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:arin@ics-il.net"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arin@ics-il.net">arin@ics-il.net</a></a>> wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">If the smallest
IPv6 allocation an ISP can get is a /36 (X-small or up to
/20 in IPv4), but we have a fee established for XX-small
(up to /40 IPv6 and /22 IPv4), why don't we permit an ISP
to get a /40? Small providers may not want to increase
their ARIN fees to simply be able to get their own IPv6
allocation. Seems counter-intuitive in getting everyone on
the IPv6 train. It also falls on a clean boundary, so
there shouldn't be any concerns with issued subnets.<br>
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If there's no good reason why we're not doing this, how to
we start the process to allow this?<br>
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<div>A little more than two years ago we considered a policy
to do just that;</div>
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<div><span style="">Draft Policy ARIN-2013-3: Tiny IPv6
Allocations for ISPs<br>
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<div>The consensus at the time was that a /40 was too small
for an ISP and that we should reconsider the fee structure
instead. That has been in process with the fee committee
that was discussed previously. However, if there is a new
consensus in support of allowing ISPs to receive a /40, I'd
recommend the text of ARIN-2013-3 as a starting point.</div>
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<div><span style="">David Farmer
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div><span style="">Office of Information Technology</span></div>
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