[arin-ppml] Micro-allocation policy proposal draft

Andrew Dul andrew.dul at quark.net
Mon Sep 22 14:21:57 EDT 2014


David,

If the last section was changed to...

Other critical infrastructure such as core DNS service providers (e.g.
ICANN-sanctioned root and ccTLD operators) as well as the RIRs and IANA,
may receive allocations from ARIN, when operational need can be
demonstrated.

Would this alleviate your concerns?

Andrew

On 9/22/2014 11:09 AM, David Huberman wrote:
>
> I apologize – I wish to follow-up on my own post as I hastily composed it.
>
>  
>
> Many years ago, Randy Bush made a point which resonated me:  we want
> to avoid “golden networks”.  We want to avoid 8.8.8.8 being designated
> a critical internet infrastructure service just because it’s
> successful.  Its absence would not stop the internet from working (in
> this case, DNS would still resolve just fine).  We want to avoid
> “anycast” being a “golden network”.  Anycast is an engineering choice,
> but its existence within a platform is not mission critical.  It just
> works better that way, maybe, but not more than that.
>
>  
>
> My stated concern with the new text is it opens to the door to Randy’s
> golden networks.  I’d prefer not to, especially as I think the
> pre-defined list serves us well.
>
>  
>
> *David R Huberman*
>
> Microsoft Corporation
>
> Principal, Global IP Addressing
>
>  
>
> *From:*arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net]
> *On Behalf Of *David Huberman
> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 11:05 AM
> *To:* arin-ppml at arin.net; Andrew Dul
> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Micro-allocation policy proposal draft
>
>  
>
> ​ This text concerns me:
>
>
> > Other critical infrastructure which is not defined in other
> sub-sections of section 4.4,
>
> > may receive allocations from ARIN, when operational need can be
> demonstrated. 
>
>  
>
> Can you please give us a real-world example?  The pre-defined list of
> critical operators has served us well over 17 years. I've never seen
> nor heard of something that's truly critical to the operation of the
> internet that isn't in this list that has petitioned ARIN and
> failed.   I'm loathe to change it.
>
>  
>

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