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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">David,<br>
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If the last section was changed to...<br>
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Other critical infrastructure such as core DNS service providers
(e.g. ICANN-sanctioned root and ccTLD operators) as well as the
RIRs and IANA, may receive allocations from ARIN, when operational
need can be demonstrated.<br>
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Would this alleviate your concerns?<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
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On 9/22/2014 11:09 AM, David Huberman wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
apologize – I wish to follow-up on my own post as I
hastily composed it.<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Many
years ago, Randy Bush made a point which resonated me: we
want to avoid “golden networks”. We want to avoid 8.8.8.8
being designated a critical internet infrastructure service
just because it’s successful. Its absence would not stop
the internet from working (in this case, DNS would still
resolve just fine). We want to avoid “anycast” being a
“golden network”. Anycast is an engineering choice, but its
existence within a platform is not mission critical. It
just works better that way, maybe, but not more than that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My
stated concern with the new text is it opens to the door to
Randy’s golden networks. I’d prefer not to, especially as I
think the pre-defined list serves us well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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R Huberman<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Corporation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Principal,
Global IP Addressing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net">mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Huberman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 22, 2014 11:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>; Andrew Dul<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Micro-allocation policy
proposal draft<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p><span
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This text concerns me:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
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> Other critical infrastructure which is not defined in
other sub-sections of section 4.4,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> may
receive allocations from ARIN, when operational need can be
demonstrated. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Can
you please give us a real-world example? The pre-defined
list of critical operators has served us well over 17 years.
I've never seen nor heard of something that's truly critical
to the operation of the internet that isn't in this list
that has petitioned ARIN and failed. I'm loathe to change
it.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
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