[arin-ppml] Availability of the ARIN Fee Structure Review Report

[Steve Noble]

John,

If you want to call years and years of being unable to update the ASN, 
_that I was being billed for_ "support", we have a difference of 
opinion.  Had I been an ARIN member, I am sure I would have gotten 
better treatment, but possibly not as RS and many other highly respected 
individuals tried to help over the years but were unsuccessful.

The relevance is: as stated in the review report, you have over 11,000 
ASN only organizations who are not members of ARIN.  ARIN continues to 
raise fees yet does not provide more value.  I am a vocal minority.

> John Curran <mailto:jcurran at arin.net>
> September 19, 2014 at 11:25 AM
>
> Steve -
>
> As you are well aware, that had nothing to do with membership, but the 
> fact
> that you were not associated with the organization record associated with
> the ASN.
>
> Parties can make changes to resource records without entry being a member,
> but we obviously prevent parties with no clear association with a 
> resource
> from making changes. This is completely unrelated to membership. With
> regard to being "denied support", you very much received support; it was
> via such support from ARIN that the problem was resolved in June 2016.)
>
> Again, this is completely unrelated to membership; ARIN refused to allow
> someone not associated with a resource to update because to do so would
> have been incorrect. Once we got your organization record straightened
> out, your changes were all accepted (and again, completely independent
> of membership.)
>
> FYI,
> /John
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
>
> Steve Noble <mailto:snoble at sonn.com>
> September 19, 2014 at 11:09 AM
> As an ASN only holder, not a member, I was denied the ability to 
> update my ASN for years (from 2002-2011?) and ARIN refused to do 
> anything about it.  I was required to pay the fees, else lose the ASN, 
> but not allowed to update the physical address (which is what I assume 
> registration services are for).  The fees were raised for a single ASN 
> from $30 -> $100 while ARIN provided no new services, including 
> membership in ARIN.
>
> Seth Mattinen <mailto:sethm at rollernet.us>
> September 19, 2014 at 11:03 AM
>
>
>
> Can you provide some examples of what you're being denied by only 
> having an ASN?
>
> ~Seth
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> John Curran <mailto:jcurran at arin.net>
> September 19, 2014 at 7:28 AM
> ARIN Members and Community -
>
> After the last change to the ARIN fee schedule, the ARIN Board of 
> Trustees
> directed the creation of a "Fee Structure Review Panel" to consider 
> possible
> long-term directions for ARIN fee schedule and and prepare a document for
> the community outlining the potential merits of each alternative. The 
> panel has
> now completed the production of the "ARIN Fee Structure Review Report"
> and it is attached for consideration by the ARIN community.
>
> There will be community consultation to consider potential next steps 
> for the
> ARIN Fee Schedule; that consultation will be opened after the Fee 
> Structure
> Discussion which will take place during the ARIN 34 meeting on Friday 
> morning
> 10 October 2014.
>
> I would like to thank all of the panel members for their excellent 
> efforts in
> producing this final report -
>
> ARIN Board Finance Committee Members:
> Paul Anderson (Chair)
> Aaron Hughes
> Bill Woodcock
> John Curran
>
> At-Large Members:
> Tim St. Pierre
> Steve Feldman
> Brandon Ross
> Daniel Alexander
> Michael Sinatra
>
> Thank you all! (and look forward to see you in Baltimore!)
> /John
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
>
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