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</head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">John,<br>
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If you want to call years and years of being unable to update the ASN,
_that I was being billed for_ "support", we have a difference of
opinion. Had I been an ARIN member, I am sure I would have gotten
better treatment, but possibly not as RS and many other highly respected
individuals tried to help over the years but were unsuccessful.<br>
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The relevance is: as stated in the review report, you have over 11,000
ASN only organizations who are not members of ARIN. ARIN continues to
raise fees yet does not provide more value. I am a vocal minority.<br>
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<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">September 19,
2014 at 11:25 AM</span></font></div></div></div>
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__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><div><!----><br>Steve -<br> <br>
As you are well aware, that had nothing to do with membership, but the
fact<br> that you were not associated with the organization record
associated with <br> the ASN. <br><br> Parties can make changes to
resource records without entry being a member,<br> but we obviously
prevent parties with no clear association with a resource <br> from
making changes. This is completely unrelated to membership. With<br>
regard to being "denied support", you very much received support; it
was <br> via such support from ARIN that the problem was resolved in
June 2016.)<br><br> Again, this is completely unrelated to membership;
ARIN refused to allow<br> someone not associated with a resource to
update because to do so would<br> have been incorrect. Once we got
your organization record straightened <br> out, your changes were all
accepted (and again, completely independent<br> of membership.)<br><br>FYI,<br>/John<br><br>John
Curran<br>President and CEO<br>ARIN<br><br></div></div>
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2014 at 11:09 AM</span></font></div></div></div>
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As an ASN only holder, not
a member, I was denied the ability to update my ASN for years (from
2002-2011?) and ARIN refused to do anything about it. I was required to
pay the fees, else lose the ASN, but not allowed to update the physical
address (which is what I assume registration services are for). The
fees were raised for a single ASN from $30 -> $100 while ARIN
provided no new services, including membership in ARIN.<br>
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<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">September 19,
2014 at 11:03 AM</span></font></div></div></div>
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<br>Can you provide some examples of what you're being denied by only
having
an ASN?
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<br>~Seth
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<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">September 19,
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- <br><br>After the last change to the ARIN fee schedule, the ARIN
Board of Trustees <br>directed the creation of a "Fee Structure Review
Panel" to consider possible<br>long-term directions for ARIN fee
schedule and and prepare a document for<br>the community outlining the
potential merits of each alternative. The panel has <br>now completed
the production of the "ARIN Fee Structure Review Report" <br>and it is
attached for consideration by the ARIN community. <br><br>There will be
community consultation to consider potential next steps for the <br>ARIN
Fee Schedule; that consultation will be opened after the Fee Structure <br>Discussion
which will take place during the ARIN 34 meeting on Friday morning<br>10
October 2014.<br><br>I would like to thank all of the panel members for
their excellent efforts in <br>producing this final report -<br><br>
ARIN Board Finance Committee Members:<br> Paul Anderson (Chair)
<br> Aaron Hughes<br> Bill Woodcock<br> John
Curran <br><br> At-Large Members: <br> Tim St. Pierre<br>
Steve Feldman<br> Brandon Ross <br> Daniel Alexander <br>
Michael Sinatra<br><br>Thank you all! (and look forward to see
you in Baltimore!)<br>/John<br><br>John Curran<br>President and CEO<br>ARIN<br><br></div><div>_______________________________________________<br>PPML<br>You
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