[arin-ppml] ARIN Draft Policy 2014-2 Improving 8.4 Anti-Flip Language

William Herrin bill at herrin.us
Mon May 5 16:15:03 EDT 2014

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:32 PM, David Huberman
<David.Huberman at microsoft.com> wrote:
> "At the end of discussion, the moderator asked for the following straw poll (remote participants were invited to participate). Poll results were provided to the Advisory Council for use in its deliberations.
> Straw poll for/against continuing work on the proposal:
> - Total attendees/remote participants: 103
> - In favor: 36
> - Against: 2 "
> The participating members of this community spoke widely
> in favor of working on this.  Abandoning this seems contrary
> to the explicit wishes of the community's participants

Hi David,

What do you suggest as the next step? Bill rightly points out that he
got only two responses to his query, both against the proposal.

>From my point of view, the original language works as desired. The
proposed language creates a revolving door for addresses -- get some
new ones from the free pool and sell some old ones to foreign
organizations. Given than addresses can be used by a subsidiary
without any harm to the parent and without changing the registration,
the direct need for this proposal is only slightly above nonexistent.
The problem isn't real. So it's stated function is a no-op while the
abuse function for someone ready to navigate the byzantine depths of
ARIN policy is substantial.

Call me crazy, but I think the 36 who asked for further work really
want a more generalized relaxation of ARIN transfer policies. Call
their votes an expression of frustration. Personally, I think relaxing
the needs test for transfers is worthy of more discussion. The
back-door approach in 2014-2 is not.

Bill Herrin

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