[arin-ppml] ARIN Draft Policy 2014-2 Improving 8.4 Anti-Flip Language

[William Herrin]

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com> wrote:
> Bill Herrin makes a good point: many of the ideas we've been discussing in
> the context of 2014-2 are really a more general relaxation of transfer
> policies, and probably should be considered separately.  However, I think
> that statement (#2 above) represents something pretty close to the consensus
> I heard in Chicago.  Given that it also addresses the 2014-2 problem
> statement, I think that might be the direction we need to be going here.
> Thoughts?

Hi Scott,

That defeats the anti-flipping provisions entirely. It costs all of a
couple hundred dollars ($2000 if you jump through -all- the hoops) to
create a subsidiary. It's trivial. You then sell the subsidiary
replete with addresses. The buyer doesn't even have to register
separately with the RIR. $10 domain name for the POC and google voice
account included.

Worse, as implemented in this proposal it creates an unfair bias
favoring out-migration of addresses since transfers to subsidiaries
within the region are covered by a different policy. This policy
proposal is biased against the domestic folks it is ARIN's core
mission to serve!

My view now is the same as it was in February:

http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2014-February/027835.html

"Loopholes = bad. Allow open transfers or don't, but please don't
create loopholes for folks to abuse."

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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