[arin-ppml] Access to list of Number Resources with no valid POCs (was: Re: POC Validation ...)

Breeden, James W. jwb at liveair.net
Wed Aug 20 02:58:55 EDT 2014


+1

I disagree; I think this is well within the
purview of ARIN's mandate to restrict
access to records for non-compliant
networks.
Matt

+1


From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Petach
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 11:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Access to list of Number Resources with no valid POCs (was: Re: POC Validation ...)



On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com<mailto:hannigan at gmail.com>> wrote:
John,

The policy proposal in the archive initially stated that it should be
brought to the attention of the community and didn't imply roadblocks.
I forget how the whois requirement was inserted and I don't really
care since the issue is policy, but if I recall correctly that whois
document wasn't a legal agreement "back then". Transparency != 6 pages
of legalese.

Would have been nice to for the system to generate a warning to an
associated admin POC that ARIN was going to cripple a networks ability
to maintain its resource legitimately.

IMHO, ARIN is over stepping its boundaries.




YMMV,


Marty



> On Aug 18, 2014, at 17:38, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net<mailto:jcurran at arin.net>> wrote:
>
>> On Aug 18, 2014, at 5:14 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com<mailto:hannigan at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> The policy doesn't state users should be locked out, rather it states a list will be provided publicly and the POC marked "invalid".  POC invalidation works. Wheres the list?
>
> Martin -
>
>   Per NRPM 3.6.1) - "ARIN will maintain, and make readily available to the community, a current list of number resources with no valid POC; this data will be subject to the current bulk Whois policy."
>
> Note that available to the community and subject to the current bulk Whois policy
> is not quite the same as "publicly"; for more details on the Bulk Whois AUP, you
> should check here:
>
>      https://www.arin.net/resources/request/bulkwhois.html
>
>  Once you have signed the Bulk Whois AUP, you may download the list
>  of "Number Resources without valid POCs" via ARIN Online under the
>  "Downloads & Services" menu item -
>
>     <https://www.arin.net/public/secure/downloads/index.xhtml>
>
> FYI,
> /John
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
>
>
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