[arin-ppml] Access to list of Number Resources with no valid POCs (was: Re: POC Validation ...)

Matthew Petach mpetach at netflight.com
Wed Aug 20 00:39:44 EDT 2014


On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:

> John,
>
> The policy proposal in the archive initially stated that it should be
> brought to the attention of the community and didn't imply roadblocks.
> I forget how the whois requirement was inserted and I don't really
> care since the issue is policy, but if I recall correctly that whois
> document wasn't a legal agreement "back then". Transparency != 6 pages
> of legalese.
>
> Would have been nice to for the system to generate a warning to an
> associated admin POC that ARIN was going to cripple a networks ability
> to maintain its resource legitimately.
>
> IMHO, ARIN is over stepping its boundaries.
>

I disagree; I think this is well within the
purview of ARIN's mandate to restrict
access to records for non-compliant
networks.

Matt


>
>
> YMMV,
>
>
> Marty
>
>
>
> > On Aug 18, 2014, at 17:38, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Aug 18, 2014, at 5:14 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The policy doesn't state users should be locked out, rather it states a
> list will be provided publicly and the POC marked "invalid".  POC
> invalidation works. Wheres the list?
> >
> > Martin -
> >
> >   Per NRPM 3.6.1) - "ARIN will maintain, and make readily available to
> the community, a current list of number resources with no valid POC; this
> data will be subject to the current bulk Whois policy."
> >
> > Note that available to the community and subject to the current bulk
> Whois policy
> > is not quite the same as "publicly"; for more details on the Bulk Whois
> AUP, you
> > should check here:
> >
> >      https://www.arin.net/resources/request/bulkwhois.html
> >
> >  Once you have signed the Bulk Whois AUP, you may download the list
> >  of "Number Resources without valid POCs" via ARIN Online under the
> >  "Downloads & Services" menu item -
> >
> >     <https://www.arin.net/public/secure/downloads/index.xhtml>
> >
> > FYI,
> > /John
> >
> > John Curran
> > President and CEO
> > ARIN
> >
> >
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