[arin-ppml] ARIN-2013-4: RIR Principles / Request for General Thoughts

Chris Grundemann cgrundemann at gmail.com
Wed Jun 12 17:51:59 EDT 2013


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:15 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> I haven't seen any responses for a couple days, so here's the current count:

First of all this is not a vote, and while I appreciate you're
attempts to help (I assume), they come across as a manipulative
attempt at controlling the conversation when the counts are not
accurate and are (repeatedly) preemptive. Further, I really appreciate
your opinion on this topic (and all others) but we have all heard it
multiple times in a thread where I asked for a single response to
allow others to participate. Your assistance is not needed, thanks any
way, you can stop now.

Cheers,
~Chris

> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 1) Do you support the principle of efficient utilization based on need
>> (Conservation/Sustainability)?
>
> 7 of 20 respondents in favor, 12 opposed, 1 did not offer an answer
> that could be interpreted as support or opposition.
>
> 17 of 20 respondents used language that could reasonably be
> interpreted as supporting sustainable allocation as a principle,
> independent of the "needs" question. 1 offered language opposed.
>
> 9 respondents could be reasonably understood to favor
> conservation as a principle. 4 were opposed.
>
>
>> 2) Do you support the principle of hierarchical aggregation (Routability)?
>
> 5 of 20 respondents favor, 14 of 20 oppose heirarchy, aggregation or
> both as a principle but are not necessarily against its current
> practice.
>
> 17 of 20 used various language to express a view that supporting
> routing scalability is an appropriate principle. 2 offered the view
> that ARIN activity should not be informed by routing issues.
>
>
>> 3) Do you support the principle of uniqueness (Registration)?
>
> 19 of 20 favor. 0 oppose.
>
>> 4) Do you support the goal of balancing these principles with each
>> other under the overarching principle of Stewardship?
>
> 8 of 20 support, 10 of 20 oppose, 2 non-answers. Most answers were
> nuanced such that the yeses were conditional on the respondent's
> unique interpretation of the word stewardship and the no's were along
> the lines of "define this better."
>
>
>
> I also read the report from the recent policy consultation. Only one
> person not affiliated with ARIN spoke, and he offered questions, not
> answers. If the show of hands count was published, I missed it.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>
>
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