[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-174 Policies Apply to All Resources in the Registry

[Kevin Kargel]

I am very surprised that I am actually starting to agree that LRSA and RSA
contract versions should be public record.  How can we tell if members are
being treated fairly and equitably if the details are kept secret?  

If an entity's dealings are impartial then there is no reason to keep them
behind closed doors.  If there are usable versions of *RSA that offer a
business advantage then I want one of those too.

At the very least sterilized (names removed) copies of all utilized versions
of LRSA and RSA (including addenda and codicils, additions and redactions)
should be published for examination, even if they are not tied to specific
parties.  We don't necessarily need to know which version a particular
entity is party to, but we should be able to find out what is contained in
various versions of active agreements.

This is perhaps a knee jerk reaction, but it is making more and more sense
to me.

Kevin


 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of William Herrin
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 4:24 PM
> To: John Curran
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-174 Policies Apply to All Resources in
> the Registry
> 
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 1:43 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
> > It truly is a honor to cover the same questions again and
> > again, but as I am here to serve this community,
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Sorry for being late to the party. For what it's worth, your
> willingness to keep subjecting yourself to an unmoderated public forum
> impresses the heck out of me. I have never seen an official willing to
> engage with the public the way you have. I wish more would; we'd have
> better governance.
> 
> 
> >  As I noted _yesterday_, we sometimes have to make changes to
> >  the agreements as a result of being in s court proceeding -
> 
> Oh, Okay. So when you said that ARIN insists that transfers only
> happen according to the terms of the LRSA, what you really meant is
> that ARIN insists that transfers happen according to the closest
> custom contract the buyer can be wheedled in to.
> 
> ARIN will then proceed to call that custom contract an LRSA and will
> keep it secret. Since it's subject to the court, there is no minimum
> inclusion of the terms in the published LRSA that ARIN can guarantee.
> And like everybody else, signatories must follow all number
> policies... that the contract says they have to.
> 
> When you put it that way, your position is much more consistent with
> your predecessor's assertion that ARIN had no authority over legacy
> addresses.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill
> 
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