[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-172 Additional definition for NRPM Section 2 - Legacy Resources

[Chris Grundemann]

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:45 AM, John Springer <springer at inlandnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Kevin Kargel wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> How do we know that there is a majority if they are silent?  If they do
>>> not
>>> participate it is just as if not more likely that the silent parties are
>>> silent explicitly because they are happy with the way things are going.
>>>
>>
>> Bingo. If the suggestion is that we need 3000+ "me too"s or +1s, I don't
>> feel that that would be an advance. I estimate when opposition to or support
>> for a proposal is sufficient (IMO) to make my piping up superfluous and then
>> keep quiet. That does not mean that I do not have an opinion or the right to
>> one, only that it is not necessary to express it.
>>
>
>
> It could also be indicative of other factors that  influence a
> conscious decision not to participate.  Many of the participants here,
> even posting under their own names, are likely not able to comment on
> legal matters. It's clear that 172 touches upon legal as well as
> policy issues.
>
> There is a fear factor to consider. Companies that support a
> legitimized market also need to continue to deal with ARIN. It could
> be detrimental to publicly come out in support of such proposals for
> fear of retaliation. Whether that is a justified fear or not is
> irrelevant.
>
> I support Kevin in wanting visible support, but I don't think that's
> realistic under the current circumstances and that using some common
> sense with respect to "consensus" on these particularly interesting
> and complex issues is justified and welcomed.

Hi Marty,

How do you propose that we gauge non-visible-support?

Thanks,
~Chris

> Best,
>
> -M<
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