[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-172 Additional definition for NRPM Section 2 - Legacy Resources

[Kevin Kargel]

Lack of visible support does not prove consensus.

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Hannigan [mailto:hannigan at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:03 PM
> To: John Springer
> Cc: Kevin Kargel; arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-172 Additional definition for NRPM
> Section 2 - Legacy Resources
> 
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:45 AM, John Springer <springer at inlandnet.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Kevin Kargel wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> How do we know that there is a majority if they are silent?  If they do
> >> not
> >> participate it is just as if not more likely that the silent parties
> are
> >> silent explicitly because they are happy with the way things are going.
> >>
> >
> > Bingo. If the suggestion is that we need 3000+ "me too"s or +1s, I don't
> > feel that that would be an advance. I estimate when opposition to or
> support
> > for a proposal is sufficient (IMO) to make my piping up superfluous and
> then
> > keep quiet. That does not mean that I do not have an opinion or the
> right to
> > one, only that it is not necessary to express it.
> >
> 
> 
> It could also be indicative of other factors that  influence a
> conscious decision not to participate.  Many of the participants here,
> even posting under their own names, are likely not able to comment on
> legal matters. It's clear that 172 touches upon legal as well as
> policy issues.
> 
> There is a fear factor to consider. Companies that support a
> legitimized market also need to continue to deal with ARIN. It could
> be detrimental to publicly come out in support of such proposals for
> fear of retaliation. Whether that is a justified fear or not is
> irrelevant.
> 
> I support Kevin in wanting visible support, but I don't think that's
> realistic under the current circumstances and that using some common
> sense with respect to "consensus" on these particularly interesting
> and complex issues is justified and welcomed.
> 
> Best,
> 
> -M<
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