[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-172 Additional definition for NRPM Section 2 - Legacy Resources

[Milton L Mueller]

We don't need to debate whether consensus exists or not. 
When it comes to legacy resources, community consensus is irrelevant. A company without a contract has no legal or any other kind of obligation to ARIN consensus processes. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Martin Hannigan
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 10:29 AM
> To: Astrodog
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-172 Additional definition for NRPM
> Section 2 - Legacy Resources
> 
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Astrodog <astrodog at gmx.com> wrote:
> > On 6/6/2012 4:13 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> 
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> 
> > Not to beat a dead horse, but the community consensus seems to very
> > clearly be that number resources are not property, and service is not
> > guaranteed for those organizations which do not have an agreement with
> > the relevant RIR. The service is, instead, provided on a best effort
> > basis in the interests of making life easier for everyone involved.
> 
> 
> I'm pretty sure that consensus against is not representative. We have
> a vocal few who repeatedly bang on the drum, and an extremely large
> and silent minority. We know this by the volume of transfer that ARIN
> sees, the strong interest by the APNIC folks and their members, the
> bankruptcy activity and the fact that we've had at least four
> companies create an industry around specifically dealing with IPv4
> transfer and markets. At the end of the day, consensus is extremely
> difficult to judge on this topic and I think that most understand
> this.
> 
> Best,
> 
> -M<
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