[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-172 Additional definition for NRPM Section 2 - Legacy Resources

[Larry Ash]

On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:15:00 +0000
  Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
> We don't need to debate whether consensus exists or not. 
> When it comes to legacy resources, community consensus is irrelevant. A 
>company without a contract has no legal or any other kind of obligation to 
>ARIN consensus processes. 

And vice-versa only custom.


> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
>> Behalf Of Martin Hannigan
>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 10:29 AM
>> To: Astrodog
>> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-172 Additional definition for NRPM
>> Section 2 - Legacy Resources
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Astrodog <astrodog at gmx.com> wrote:
>> > On 6/6/2012 4:13 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> 
>> [ clip ]
>> 
>> > Not to beat a dead horse, but the community consensus seems to very
>> > clearly be that number resources are not property, and service is not
>> > guaranteed for those organizations which do not have an agreement with
>> > the relevant RIR. The service is, instead, provided on a best effort
>> > basis in the interests of making life easier for everyone involved.
>> 
>> 
>> I'm pretty sure that consensus against is not representative. We have
>> a vocal few who repeatedly bang on the drum, and an extremely large
>> and silent minority. We know this by the volume of transfer that ARIN
>> sees, the strong interest by the APNIC folks and their members, the
>> bankruptcy activity and the fact that we've had at least four
>> companies create an industry around specifically dealing with IPv4
>> transfer and markets. At the end of the day, consensus is extremely
>> difficult to judge on this topic and I think that most understand
>> this.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> -M<
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