[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-172 Additional definition for NRPM Section 2 - Legacy Resources

[David Farmer]

On 6/6/12 00:23 , John Curran wrote:
> On Jun 5, 2012, at 5:32 PM, David Farmer wrote:
>
>> This seem to most directly speak to the relationship between ARIN and the resource registration, the registration was "handed down" to ARIN from its predecessor registries (Postel's notebook :), SRI, InterNIC, Etc...) by the US Gov (through NFS with the assent of several other fed agencies and oversight bodies).  When ARIN was created there wasn't any change in the relationship between the resource holder and the resource.  That relationship was established when the assignment was made.  Also, if the resource holder still exists and is using the resource, then I contend, the relationship between the resource and resource holder has never changed and never will change.
>
> You would be asserting incorrectly, as the address block was issued to
> the holder subject to policies which both can effect the relationship
> and can change over time.
>
> Registrants had to accept policy changes from the USG (such as the change
> of the registry itself from one party to another and addition of fields)
> as well as change to registry policies as set by the community (such as
> RFC 2050, the bulk Whois policy, etc.)

I guess I wasn't clear, I was speaking of the fundamental relationship 
between the resource and the resource holder, the binding between them 
at assignment.

The assignment of resources I assume was allays conditioned on a bunch 
of things; one of those was to actually use it, which seems to have been 
forgotten by a bunch of people. Another was that the community was going 
to set the rules as it went along, change was a given.  The whole intent 
of the Internet at that time was to change the rules.

But, I've never seen a policy that fundamentally changed the 
relationship between the resource and the resource holder, it simply is 
not in anyone's interest to do so.  And if our policies are truly 
neutral and community driven then I'm confident that it won't happen.

I don't believe that fundamental relationship ever changed through all 
of the registry changes and I don't believe it did when ARIN was 
created.  But yes part of that relationship what that there was and are 
conditions.

> FYI,
> /John
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN