[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-173 Revisions to M&A Transfer

Steven Ryerse SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com
Thu Jul 19 20:50:24 EDT 2012


Viewing posts to this forum over time, I have concluded that there are a lot of folks who’s opinion  is that ARIN should just take control of all legacy resources and manage them however they please with input from this forum.  Then there are a lot of folks who’s opinion is that ARIN essentially doesn’t have authority over the Legacy holders resources.  Certainly all members of this forum have an equal right to their opinion and an equal right to express them here.

I’m not sure which holders of /8’s and other large blocks are still in Legacy status but the list reads like a who’s who of Fortune 500 companies.  I don’t ever see comments from those companies stating their opinions in this forum, but you can be sure their attorney’s would have an opinion and would act decisively should ARIN and this forum of Members ever try and reclaim (take) those Legacy resources away from them.

As a Legacy holder of one measly /24 block it is my opinion that ARIN and the members of this Forum don’t have the right to just reclaim (take) those resources away from Legacy holders.  That is just my opinion and I’m entitled to it - and as a member I can share it in a constructive manner.

Based on some off forum email messages I’ve received I think that there are a lot of Members who would completely agree with me.  I sense that many have tried in the past to share their view in this forum, and have tired of trying to convince this community to embrace the Legacy community in a reasonable prudent way for all and join with them in ARIN’s mission of furthering Internet usage.

Maybe the prudent thing to do is hold a vote and encourage every member to vote ,even Members that rarely if ever post to this Forum.  I’m guessing that there would be a lot of Members voting - and seeing a healthy vote total might be the common ground needed to fairly and prudently address the Legacy holders and non-Legacy Holders need to work together for the common mission.

I strongly disagree with Larry’s comments but I do share his desire to see this resolved once and for all.

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From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Lindsey, Marc
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 7:17 PM
To: 'arin-ppml at arin.net'
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-173 Revisions to M&A Transfer

Dear Larry,

You wrote: It seams to me that we will be continually besieged with these proposals . . . . Needless to say I don't support the proposal and am tired of the argument associated with it. I mean no disrespect to Mr. Lindsey but I thought that the list made it's wishes clear before.

<<< M Lindsey Reply>>>  As far as I know, the proposal is still under consideration and has not been abandoned by the AC.  There have been both supporters and detractors of the prior drafts.  I have read and considered comments from the critics, supporters and ARIN staff, and have revised the proposal text several times in an attempt to address many (but certainly not all) of the concerns raised.

Notwithstanding your apparent weariness of entertaining viewpoints that differ from your own, in my opinion the PPML is a valuable policy development tool because many on the list (including me) are willing to keep an open mind, revisit their prior assumptions, and consider the merits of contrary arguments.

But I have noted your general objection to this policy and others like it, and I’ll consider any further responses from you on the topic  as a less disrespectful  <delete>.

Marc Lindsey
Levine, Blaszak, Block & Boothby, LLP
2001 L Street, NW Suite 900
Washington, DC 20036
Phone: (202) 857-2564
Email: mlindsey at lb3law.com<mailto:mlindsey at lb3law.com>
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