[arin-ppml] An article of interest to the community....

Kevin Kargel kkargel at polartel.com
Thu Sep 1 12:20:20 EDT 2011



 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Burns [mailto:mike at nationwideinc.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:42 AM
> To: Kevin Kargel; Owen DeLong
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] An article of interest to the community....
> 
> Hi Kevin,
> 
> >I have not looked this up, so forgive me if my memory is faulty, but
> isn't
> >there a grace period in the event of a section 12 review where the user
> has
> >"X" amount of time to appeal and/or prove they are using the address
> space?
> 
> >Wouldn't this grace period be sufficient protection for a "sale"?
> 
> I guess it depends on how long a sale takes, which is dependent on
> pricing,
> among other things. There is no language in section 12 which provides
> protection for unused addresses involved in a sales transaction, nor in
> the
> RSA.
> 
> 
> >I find it hard to believe that ARIN would review and summarily revoke a
> >registration without some due process that would give the user time to
> work
> >things out.
> 
> I agree that ARIN has shown every intention of not doing this, but the
> fact
> that they have the right to do it gives pause to sellers.
> Perversely it is the sellers with large swaths of unused space who have
> the
> most risk in this regard.
> 
> >If a user is not utilizing an IP block, and then they find out that they
> >cannot sell the block, it seems to me that the block *should* return to
> the
> >common pool.
> 
> According to the legal contract which is the RSA they are obliged to do
> this.
> 
> >I think things are pretty good the way they are.
> 
> And how many sales of unused RSA space have occurred? Zero.
> (John, feel free to provide the accurate number if it is not in fact
> zero.)

I do not think it is ARIN's responsibility to promote sales of RSA space or to foster a "market".  ARIN does, at the direction of the community, make accommodations for a market.  To my way of thinking this is well and good and as far as it should go.  

ARIN is a registrar, they are not a standards body, nor are they a law making body. ARIN should not be in the business of imposing regulating taxes. ARIN needs to stick to the business of being a registrar.  Let's not try and get too big for our britches.  Bad things will happen if we do.


> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 




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