[arin-ppml] 2011-1 dissent Was: Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call

[Bill Darte]

Marty,

I've asked you for substantive discussion about the current wording of the policy text of 2011-1 and how it does or does not conform to the objectives listed on Slide 6 of my presentation and community consensus for an Inter-regional transfer policy.

Instead you 'strike' out about the system and some 'circling the wagons' conspiracy.

Please be specific when you speak of over-controlling policy related to v4 transfers...which is stifling transition.  If you have more than base-less charges, please share them.  Through open and legitimate debate we can make progress. But not, I'm afraid, through incendiary rhetoric.

bd


-----Original Message-----
From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net on behalf of Martin Hannigan
Sent: Thu 10/20/2011 9:46 AM
To: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] 2011-1 dissent Was: Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call
 
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:59 AM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
> On Oct 19, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I agree with you, the process has failed at least from an integrity
>> perspective.  The last call text presented in this thread should not
>> be allowed to propagate under the cover of community blessing.
>
> Marty -
>

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[ snip John ]
[ snip CJ ]
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ARIN has a history of circling the wagons after it is unable to
prevent public dissent. Generally, a "first strike" mentality exists
whenever the organizations credibility or integrity of it's process is
challenged. It's unfortunate that we spend so much time controlling
and so little time working on good policy that makes sense. Right now,
transition is failing as a result of ARIN over-controlling policy that
is related to v4 transfer.

Not much more I can say on the topic. I would like to again thank my
colleagues for their hard work.

Best,

-M<
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