[arin-ppml] Integrating Draft Policy ARIN-2011-1 into NRPM 8.3

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Thu May 26 16:14:10 EDT 2011


On May 26, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Aaron Dudek wrote:

> Since we are discussing 8.3.
> I feel that there should be language to allow for transfers of IPv6.
> Currently there is no language to allow for transfers of IPv6 allocations.
> So essentially
> 

IMHO, there should not. The need to facilitate directed transfers
in IPv4 is strictly a result of the intersection of legacy addresses and
failure to have a strong mechanism for address policy with legacy
resources combined with the shortage of addresses.

Neither of these factors applies to IPv6 and such transfers have no
positive effect.

Owen


> 8.3. Transfers to Specified Recipients
> 
> In addition to transfers under section 8.2, IPv4  and IPv6 number resources
> within the ARIN region may be released to ARIN by the authorized resource
> holder, in whole or in part, for transfer to another specified
> organizational recipient.......
> 
> The other option would to remove the version number and just leave IP number
> resources....
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Aaron Dudek
> 
>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 01:34, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On May 25, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>>>> It doesn't surprise me to see that we will disagree on this.
>>>>> Since you are opposed to needs-basis in general, I don't expect you to
>>>>> understand
>>>>> the need to preserve it here or to agree with it.
>>>>> Owen
>>>>> On May 25, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Mike Burns wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Similarly, I don't expect you to entertain any logic that free markets
>>>> are beneficial. I suspect spending a lot of time in the Bay Area has
>>>> that effect.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think there are places where regulated free markets can be beneficial.
>>> 
>>> If you can point to a single historical example of an unregulated free
>>> market that
>>> remained beneficial and unregulated for more than 5 years, I'll be
>>> surprised.
>>> 
>>> Owen
>>> 
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