[arin-ppml] Integrating Draft Policy ARIN-2011-1 into NRPM 8.3

[Aaron Dudek]

Currently the only way to transfer owner ship is through 8.2 Mergers
and Acquisitions.
Company A received an initial allocation. Company B received a
significant allocation from Company A.

Company A goes out of business. There is no method for company B to
take over the block from company A.
Company A has to migrate to a larger block. There is no method for
company B to take over the block from company A.

These are just a couple of examples.
ARIN still has the final say of any transfers as per the rest of 8.3
as the "new owner" has to show need and justification just as before.

Aaron

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 16:14, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>
> On May 26, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Aaron Dudek wrote:
>
>> Since we are discussing 8.3.
>> I feel that there should be language to allow for transfers of IPv6.
>> Currently there is no language to allow for transfers of IPv6 allocations.
>> So essentially
>>
>
> IMHO, there should not. The need to facilitate directed transfers
> in IPv4 is strictly a result of the intersection of legacy addresses and
> failure to have a strong mechanism for address policy with legacy
> resources combined with the shortage of addresses.
>
> Neither of these factors applies to IPv6 and such transfers have no
> positive effect.
>
> Owen
>
>
>> 8.3. Transfers to Specified Recipients
>>
>> In addition to transfers under section 8.2, IPv4  and IPv6 number resources
>> within the ARIN region may be released to ARIN by the authorized resource
>> holder, in whole or in part, for transfer to another specified
>> organizational recipient.......
>>
>> The other option would to remove the version number and just leave IP number
>> resources....
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Aaron Dudek
>>
>>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 01:34, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On May 25, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>>>>> It doesn't surprise me to see that we will disagree on this.
>>>>>> Since you are opposed to needs-basis in general, I don't expect you to
>>>>>> understand
>>>>>> the need to preserve it here or to agree with it.
>>>>>> Owen
>>>>>> On May 25, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Mike Burns wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Similarly, I don't expect you to entertain any logic that free markets
>>>>> are beneficial. I suspect spending a lot of time in the Bay Area has
>>>>> that effect.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think there are places where regulated free markets can be beneficial.
>>>>
>>>> If you can point to a single historical example of an unregulated free
>>>> market that
>>>> remained beneficial and unregulated for more than 5 years, I'll be
>>>> surprised.
>>>>
>>>> Owen
>>>>
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