[arin-ppml] IPv4 Transfer Policy Change to Keep Whois Accurate

Mike Burns mike at nationwideinc.com
Thu May 19 14:44:04 EDT 2011


Blake,

How many times have I been accused of shirking stewardship, or abandoning it?
I have asked that posters refrain from that flammable language, but yet it persists.

There was also Owen's point about not making policy for personal reasons, only for the good of the community.
I read that as an elliptical personal attack, and consistent with his attempt to paint me as a poor steward and as somebody who is trying to make policy for selfish and not community reasons.


Nonetheless, I see your point and apologize for my personal attacks and resolve to end them and not try to yell louder and sling mud.

Regards,
Mike




----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Blake Dunlap 
  To: arin-ppml at arin.net 
  Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] IPv4 Transfer Policy Change to Keep Whois Accurate





  On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 13:08, Mike Burns <mike at nationwideinc.com> wrote:

    Hi Owen,

    I'm top-posting because it's too hard to keep this readable with the black vertical lines on the left side.

    I guess we can let Geoff Huston speak for himself:
    http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2008-11/transfers.html

    As to Microsoft planning leading them to purchasing the same exact need as ARIN's particular application of its policies at the time of the transaction?
    Please.
    Remember that Microsoft was an arms-length negotiator who was solicited by the address broker in the deal along with 80 other companies.
    So Microsoft's planning was so excellent that they could find the exact amount of addresses they needed in the form of the very first public sale of legacy addresses ever recorded?
    That's believable!
    And their excellent planning staff, whose decision so exactly matched ARIN's ex-post-facto analysis, failed to inform management that they could save $7.5 million by getting them directly from ARIN?

     "I suppose since I favor a faster migration to IPv6, I should probably support the greater disruption to IPv4 brought about by your policy, but, in the interests of the community, I just can't bring myself to do so."

    lol. Sounds like you're shirking your longterm stewardship duties there.

    Regards,
    Mike 




  You were much more persuasive before you started resorting to personal attacks. I even agree with your goal somewhat, just not the current plan for getting there, or many of your justifications for such. You will have much better luck actually listening to others and working with them, instead of just yelling louder and slinging mud.

  As stated however, I strongly agree with Owen that this current policy is a nightmare for the community as written.

  -Blake



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