[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-147 Set Transfer Need to 24 months and Clarify Exception - version 2

[Larry Ash]

I oppose either 24 or 36 month requirement.
I think what we have is by far better.
I oppose micro-managing staff by fine tuning policy to remove reasonable 
wiggle room.
The staff does an overall good job lets not mandate that they quit doing 
that.

Larry Ash
POE CBS-129



  Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
> This proposal would be better served with a 36 month window instead of
> 24 IMHO. 24 months is a significant improvement. Extending the window
> to 36 would be an even bigger improvement in terms of the ability for
> not only small but the largest networks to plan as well.
> 
> Best,
> 
> -M<
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:15 AM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>> The proposal originator revised the proposal.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Communications and Member Services
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>
>>
>> ## * ##
>>
>>
>> ARIN-prop-147 Set Transfer Need to 24 months
>> Proposal Originator: Matthew Kaufman
>> Proposal Version: 2
>> Date: 17 May 2011
>> Proposal type: new
>> Policy term: permanent
>> Policy statement:
>>
>> If ARIN-prop-146 passes, also modify "will be utilized within 12 months"
>> to "will be utilized within 24 months"
>>
>> Rationale:
>>
>> Due to the complexity of the financial transaction that may be
>> involved and the associated budgeting on the part of the receiving
>> organization, 24 months is a more reasonable amount of forecast need to
>> allow to be fulfilled via the transfer process.
>>
>> Potential benefit to address aggregation by allowing fewer larger
>> transfers sooner.
>>
>> Change from previous version: uses the new language proposed in
>> ARIN-prop-146 rather than modifying 4.2.4.4. Also no longer modifies
>> 4.2.4.4 to apply to section 8.2 transfers.
>>
>> Timetable for implementation: immediate
>>
>>
>> ARIN wrote:
>>>
>>> ARIN-prop-147 Set Transfer Need to 24 months and Clarify Exception
>>>
>>> ARIN received the following policy proposal and is posting it to the
>>> Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) in accordance with the Policy
>>> Development Process.
>>>
>>> The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) will review the proposal at their next
>>> regularly scheduled meeting (if the period before the next regularly
>>> scheduled meeting is less than 10 days, then the period may be extended
>>> to the subsequent regularly scheduled meeting). The AC will decide how
>>> to utilize the proposal and announce the decision to the PPML.
>>>
>>> The AC invites everyone to comment on the proposal on the PPML,
>>> particularly their support or non-support and the reasoning
>>> behind their opinion. Such participation contributes to a thorough
>>> vetting and provides important guidance to the AC in their deliberations.
>>>
>>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>>>
>>> The ARIN Policy Development Process can be found at:
>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>>>
>>> Mailing list subscription information can be found
>>> at: https://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Communications and Member Services
>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>>
>>>
>>> ## * ##
>>>
>>>
>>> ARIN-prop-147 Set Transfer Need to 24 months and Clarify Exception
>>>
>>> Proposal Originator: Matthew Kaufman
>>>
>>> Proposal Version: 1
>>>
>>> Date: 2 May 2011
>>>
>>> Proposal type: new
>>>
>>> Policy term: permanent
>>>
>>> Policy statement:
>>>
>>> Change section 4.2.4.4 content as follows:
>>>
>>> Replace:
>>> "This reduction does not apply to resources received via section 8.3. An
>>> organization receiving a transfer under section 8.3 may continue to
>>> request up to a 12-month supply of IP addresses."
>>>
>>> With:
>>> "This reduction does not apply to resources received via transfer. An
>>> organization receiving a transfer under section 8 may request up to a
>>> 24-month supply of IP addresses."
>>>
>>> Rationale:
>>>
>>> The exception should apply to transfers under 8.2 as well as 8.3 (and
>>> any future transfer policies).
>>>
>>> Due to the complexity of the financial transaction that may be
>>> involved and the associated budgeting on the part of the receiving
>>> organization, 24 months is a more reasonable amount of forecast need to
>>> allow to be fulfilled via the transfer process.
>>>
>>> Potential benefit to address aggregation by allowing fewer larger
>>> transfers sooner.
>>>
>>> Timetable for implementation: immediate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Larry Ash
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