[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-147 Set Transfer Need to 24 months and Clarify Exception - version 2

Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net
Tue May 17 16:33:22 EDT 2011


I support 24 months and 36 months even more so.

Jeff

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Larry Ash <lar at mwtcorp.net> wrote:
> I oppose either 24 or 36 month requirement.
> I think what we have is by far better.
> I oppose micro-managing staff by fine tuning policy to remove reasonable
> wiggle room.
> The staff does an overall good job lets not mandate that they quit doing
> that.
>
> Larry Ash
> POE CBS-129
>
>
>
>  Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This proposal would be better served with a 36 month window instead of
>> 24 IMHO. 24 months is a significant improvement. Extending the window
>> to 36 would be an even bigger improvement in terms of the ability for
>> not only small but the largest networks to plan as well.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> -M<
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:15 AM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> The proposal originator revised the proposal.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Communications and Member Services
>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>>
>>>
>>> ## * ##
>>>
>>>
>>> ARIN-prop-147 Set Transfer Need to 24 months
>>> Proposal Originator: Matthew Kaufman
>>> Proposal Version: 2
>>> Date: 17 May 2011
>>> Proposal type: new
>>> Policy term: permanent
>>> Policy statement:
>>>
>>> If ARIN-prop-146 passes, also modify "will be utilized within 12 months"
>>> to "will be utilized within 24 months"
>>>
>>> Rationale:
>>>
>>> Due to the complexity of the financial transaction that may be
>>> involved and the associated budgeting on the part of the receiving
>>> organization, 24 months is a more reasonable amount of forecast need to
>>> allow to be fulfilled via the transfer process.
>>>
>>> Potential benefit to address aggregation by allowing fewer larger
>>> transfers sooner.
>>>
>>> Change from previous version: uses the new language proposed in
>>> ARIN-prop-146 rather than modifying 4.2.4.4. Also no longer modifies
>>> 4.2.4.4 to apply to section 8.2 transfers.
>>>
>>> Timetable for implementation: immediate
>>>
>>>
>>> ARIN wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ARIN-prop-147 Set Transfer Need to 24 months and Clarify Exception
>>>>
>>>> ARIN received the following policy proposal and is posting it to the
>>>> Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) in accordance with the Policy
>>>> Development Process.
>>>>
>>>> The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) will review the proposal at their next
>>>> regularly scheduled meeting (if the period before the next regularly
>>>> scheduled meeting is less than 10 days, then the period may be extended
>>>> to the subsequent regularly scheduled meeting). The AC will decide how
>>>> to utilize the proposal and announce the decision to the PPML.
>>>>
>>>> The AC invites everyone to comment on the proposal on the PPML,
>>>> particularly their support or non-support and the reasoning
>>>> behind their opinion. Such participation contributes to a thorough
>>>> vetting and provides important guidance to the AC in their
>>>> deliberations.
>>>>
>>>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>>>>
>>>> The ARIN Policy Development Process can be found at:
>>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>>>>
>>>> Mailing list subscription information can be found
>>>> at: https://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Communications and Member Services
>>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ## * ##
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ARIN-prop-147 Set Transfer Need to 24 months and Clarify Exception
>>>>
>>>> Proposal Originator: Matthew Kaufman
>>>>
>>>> Proposal Version: 1
>>>>
>>>> Date: 2 May 2011
>>>>
>>>> Proposal type: new
>>>>
>>>> Policy term: permanent
>>>>
>>>> Policy statement:
>>>>
>>>> Change section 4.2.4.4 content as follows:
>>>>
>>>> Replace:
>>>> "This reduction does not apply to resources received via section 8.3. An
>>>> organization receiving a transfer under section 8.3 may continue to
>>>> request up to a 12-month supply of IP addresses."
>>>>
>>>> With:
>>>> "This reduction does not apply to resources received via transfer. An
>>>> organization receiving a transfer under section 8 may request up to a
>>>> 24-month supply of IP addresses."
>>>>
>>>> Rationale:
>>>>
>>>> The exception should apply to transfers under 8.2 as well as 8.3 (and
>>>> any future transfer policies).
>>>>
>>>> Due to the complexity of the financial transaction that may be
>>>> involved and the associated budgeting on the part of the receiving
>>>> organization, 24 months is a more reasonable amount of forecast need to
>>>> allow to be fulfilled via the transfer process.
>>>>
>>>> Potential benefit to address aggregation by allowing fewer larger
>>>> transfers sooner.
>>>>
>>>> Timetable for implementation: immediate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
> Larry Ash
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