[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-127: Shared Transition Space for IPv4 Address Extension
Frank Bulk - iName.com
frnkblk at iname.com
Sat Jan 22 14:20:41 EST 2011
> or the policy must MANDATE that all NAT444 justifications
> must utilize the /10
I'm not sure if CGN deployment is justification for a request. Can someone
in the know comment on that?
Even if it is justification, that restriction might be considered
overreaching by the community.
From: Jack Bates [mailto:jbates at brightok.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 11:59 AM
To: frnkblk at iname.com
Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-127: Shared Transition Space for IPv4
On 1/22/2011 10:36 AM, Frank Bulk wrote:
> FB> Yes, there will be service providers who do just as you described, but
> we shouldn't penalize all those who can't currently justify additional
> requests, anticipate future growth, acknowledge that NAT444 is the
> transition technology they need, and need a path moving forward.
I'm not saying penalize. I'm saying that we either don't support the /10
and make the eyeballs retask their existing IPv4 address space (which
will still free up some of their address space, just not as much as if
we gave them the /10), or the policy must MANDATE that all NAT444
justifications must utilize the /10. This differs from RFC-1918, in that
it specifically tasks the /10 to a purpose and mandates that it be used
for said purpose when people justify for IPv4 space.
The policy should not be wide open with an optional /10 which will be
tasked with serving a purpose, but people can just ignore that purpose
as well. This would leave a new opening for abuse.
> FB> I hope that you can avoid NAT444. I'm hoping to, too. In the words
> Randy Bush, I encourage my competitors to pursue NAT444.
Benefits of being a small ISP. I have a lot of flexibility. Benefits of
being the only provider in many areas, I have a lot of flexibility and
no Randy's encouraging me. The first place I expect to see NAT44, and it
generally will not be NAT444 though still subject to upnp breaking, is
on modem banks (yes, there are still vast pools of modem bank IP
addresses and even people that dial into them). Due to the limitation of
connectivity, modem bank users utilize a subset of protocols which
NAT444 breaks. It will, however, free up vast amounts of space.
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