[arin-ppml] Proposal insanity --- an open letter

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:46:51 -0800, "George Bonser" <gbonser at seven.com> wrote:

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net]
>On
>> Behalf Of Tony Hain
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:49 PM
>> To: 'John Curran'; 'Warren Johnson'
>> Cc: 'ARIN-PPML List'
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Proposal insanity --- an open letter
>> 
>> John,
>> 
>> I never said ARIN directed the configuration of ISP routers. The point
>> of a
>> routing registry is to be the source of truth about a resource, the
>> holder
>> of that resource, and thereby the valid originator of routing entries
>> related to that resource. Whatever you want to call it, ARIN does
>> exactly
>> that. The dynamics of routing protocols are subject to the whims and
>> business relationships that evolve between operators, but the source
>of
>> validity in registration is held by IANA and the set of RIRs.
>> 
>> Tony
>
>
>Well, this is actually the source of an earlier comment I made about the
>proposals making legacy blocks "easier to hijack".  That seems to be
>what this is facilitating, in practice.  If you remove them from whois,
>one of two things (or both) happen.  Either people start hijacking parts
>of that space and there is no way to verify the real owner of it and/or
>it gets put in the "full bogons" database and people who use that for
>their own routing filters find the traffic blocked.
>
>There is absolutely no way I am ever going to favor anything that
>changes the rules for the legacy networks or attempts to coerce them
>into doing anything.  The purpose here seems to be a round-about way to
>enable the eventual confiscation and re-issuing of space.  So you have
>network space that was granted under one set of rules but now you must
>comply with a different set of rules to keep it.  Forget it.  Stop
>having dreams of taking other people's address allocations even if they
>aren't using it.  
>
>This entire exercise stinks to high heaven.  

Yes indeed.  +1

I totally fail to see how making legacy space unroutable
serves any sensible purpose at all post-runout.  Seems like 
it would increase, nor decrease, the address shortage.

I also don't think it's a great idea to expose ARIN to the RICO
suits that would surely follow any attempt to exercise such a 
policy, considering that the sole benefit appears to be more
revenue for ARIN.

--JHG <jhg at omsys.com>