[arin-ppml] Proposal insanity --- an open letter

Mark Andrews marka at isc.org
Tue Feb 22 20:52:39 EST 2011

In message <5A6D953473350C4B9995546AFE9939EE0BC13C9F at RWC-EX1.corp.seven.com>, 
"George Bonser" writes:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net]
> On
> > Behalf Of Tony Hain
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:49 PM
> > To: 'John Curran'; 'Warren Johnson'
> > Cc: 'ARIN-PPML List'
> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Proposal insanity --- an open letter
> > 
> > John,
> > 
> > I never said ARIN directed the configuration of ISP routers. The point
> > of a
> > routing registry is to be the source of truth about a resource, the
> > holder
> > of that resource, and thereby the valid originator of routing entries
> > related to that resource. Whatever you want to call it, ARIN does
> > exactly
> > that. The dynamics of routing protocols are subject to the whims and
> > business relationships that evolve between operators, but the source
> of
> > validity in registration is held by IANA and the set of RIRs.
> > 
> > Tony
> Well, this is actually the source of an earlier comment I made about the
> proposals making legacy blocks "easier to hijack".  That seems to be
> what this is facilitating, in practice.  If you remove them from whois,
> one of two things (or both) happen.  Either people start hijacking parts
> of that space and there is no way to verify the real owner of it and/or
> it gets put in the "full bogons" database and people who use that for
> their own routing filters find the traffic blocked.
> There is absolutely no way I am ever going to favor anything that
> changes the rules for the legacy networks or attempts to coerce them
> into doing anything.  The purpose here seems to be a round-about way to
> enable the eventual confiscation and re-issuing of space.  So you have
> network space that was granted under one set of rules but now you must
> comply with a different set of rules to keep it.  Forget it.  Stop
> having dreams of taking other people's address allocations even if they
> aren't using it.  
> This entire exercise stinks to high heaven.  


Mark Andrews, ISC
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