[arin-ppml] ARIN-2011-5: Shared Transition Space for IPv4 Address Extension - Last Call

[Leif Sawyer]

In any case,  support for this policy within  one or more RIR's
would seem to provide the necessary leverage at IETF to accept
this, if they felt that it was something they needed to weigh in on.


So, yes, I am in favor of this policy.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net 
> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Weil, Jason
> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 3:12 PM
> To: Donley, Chris (Cable Labs); George, Wes E [NTK]; Chris 
> Grundemann; cja at daydream.com
> Cc: cja at daydream.com; arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2011-5: Shared Transition Space 
> for IPv4 Address Extension - Last Call
> 
> There was actually a strong contingent at the IETF that 
> opposed the draft based on the fact that this was at heart an 
> address policy discussion and the IETF was the WRONG venue 
> for this draft. They claimed the correct venue for this 
> policy was the RIRs and not the IETF.
> 
> I don't have cycles to debate the politics around which RIR 
> should bear the responsibility of instituting the policy, but 
> since I live in America ARIN is the only RIR I am concerned 
> with implementing it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jason
> 
> On 4/20/11 3:55 PM, "Donley, Chris (Cable Labs)" 
> <C.Donley at cablelabs.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >The draft actually *DID* get wg approval in OPSAWG in Beijing.  
> >However, our only hope of adoption in advance of IANA 
> exhaustion was to 
> >have the draft proceed as an AD-sponsored draft, and we were told to 
> >present in v6ops, as well.  We did not have enough support 
> in v6ops for 
> >AD sponsorship (v6ops minutes show no consensus on the 
> draft, either in 
> >favor or opposed), so we let the draft idle, as we were out 
> of time.  I 
> >still believe that this draft policy will result in a more efficient 
> >allocation of the remaining IPv4 address space than individual 
> >allocations for NAT444 space, and while it would be nice if we were 
> >able to get IANA to allocate space for the entire world, there is 
> >sufficient justification among North American ISPs that it 
> makes sense 
> >for ARIN to reserve the addresses.
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net 
> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On 
> >Behalf Of George, Wes E [NTK]
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:01 PM
> >To: Chris Grundemann; cja at daydream.com
> >Cc: cja at daydream.com; arin-ppml at arin.net
> >Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2011-5: Shared Transition 
> Space for IPv4 
> >Address Extension - Last Call
> >
> >As I remember it, the draft was vigorously discussed at IETF79 in 
> >Beijing and on the list for a while after that, but there 
> wasn't even a 
> >call for WG adoption because there was so little consensus 
> on moving it forward.
> >if it had WG approval, it would have been reissued with the 
> WG name in 
> >the title (it was being discussed in OPSAWG).  It died well 
> before IANA 
> >exhaustion. The expiration date is only a function of when the draft 
> >was written, because all drafts expire after 6 months.
> >
> >Wes
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net 
> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On 
> >Behalf Of Chris Grundemann
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 1:43 PM
> >To: cja at daydream.com
> >Cc: cja at daydream.com; arin-ppml at arin.net
> >Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2011-5: Shared Transition 
> Space for IPv4 
> >Address Extension - Last Call
> >
> >On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:16, cja at daydream.com 
> <packetgrrl at gmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I am looking around to see if I can find the discussion of this 
> >> internet draft.  I do see that it expired and was removed.
> >
> >For clarity; this went to the IETF in two rounds, the first was in a 
> >draft that asked for a /8 - that's the one that has expired.
> >The second attempt asked for a /10
> >(draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request) and that draft actually 
> >gained working group approval but essentially ran out of time (IANA 
> >exhausted). It does not expire until May 15, 2011 but since 
> there is no 
> >space left at the IANA, my understanding is that discussion 
> has stopped.
> >
> >~Chris
> >
> >> -----CJ
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