[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-139 No reassignment without networkservice

[Matthew Kaufman]

On 4/12/2011 5:10 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
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>> 5) I sell you cheap and limited Internet transit over a GRE tunnel, but my only connectivity is a single peer at a regional exchange, so you can't get to "the whole Internet" without using the LOA and multihoming (which I allow)
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> I think so, but, I would have to ask ARIN staff.
>

Lets do that.

>> 6) I sell you a "network service" over a GRE tunnel which lets you access a few servers I run in RFC1918 space that you can store backups on, I let you use a /20 of my space at your end to access those servers, and I give you an LOA so you can also use this space with your other transit provider.
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> I believe so, but, I would have to ask ARIN staff.
>

And this.

>> 7) We forget the above GRE tunnel nonsense because it is a waste of time to pretend we actually set it up, I sell you use of a /20 of my space and give you the LOA.
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> No.

Ok. How about:

8) I sell you a "network service" which lets you access a few servers I 
run in public address space that you can store backups on. I let you use 
a /20 of my space at your end to access those servers, but I don't have 
a circuit or tunnel to you... you just use IP routing to reach them. 
Since I don't provide you with a circuit, I give you an LOA so you can 
use this space with some other transit provider.

> Of course in each of the situations above, we are presuming that your customer can justify
> the need for addresses contained in said /20 (4096 IP addresses).

Yes, of course. They have 3000 desktop machines that they back up every 
day, for the purpose of this discussion.

Matthew Kaufman