[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-139 No reassignment without networkservice

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Tue Apr 12 20:10:20 EDT 2011


On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:

> Perhaps someone would like to offer an opinion on whether or not the following services would be permitted under the proposed policy:
> 
> 1) I sell you Internet transit over a T-1 loop and let you use a /20 of my space.
> 
Of course.

> 2) I sell you Internet transit over a GRE tunnel and let you use a /20 of my space.
> 
Yes.

> 3) I sell you Internet transit over a GRE tunnel, let you use a /20 of my space, and give you a letter (LOA) allowing you to have a second transit provider announce that /20 so that you may multihome using the space.
> 
Yes.

> 4) I sell you inbound-only Internet transit over a GRE tunnel (I black-hole any traffic you send me), let you use a /20 of my space, give you the LOA.
> 
Yes.

> 5) I sell you cheap and limited Internet transit over a GRE tunnel, but my only connectivity is a single peer at a regional exchange, so you can't get to "the whole Internet" without using the LOA and multihoming (which I allow)
> 

I think so, but, I would have to ask ARIN staff.

> 6) I sell you a "network service" over a GRE tunnel which lets you access a few servers I run in RFC1918 space that you can store backups on, I let you use a /20 of my space at your end to access those servers, and I give you an LOA so you can also use this space with your other transit provider.
> 
I believe so, but, I would have to ask ARIN staff.

> 7) We forget the above GRE tunnel nonsense because it is a waste of time to pretend we actually set it up, I sell you use of a /20 of my space and give you the LOA.
> 
No.

Of course in each of the situations above, we are presuming that your customer can justify
the need for addresses contained in said /20 (4096 IP addresses).

Owen




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