[arin-ppml] Proposal 2011-6

[Kevin Kargel]

If I were to draw a line I think it would be to not return anything less than a complete and contiguous /8 .  If I understand correctly that is the least they will allocate anyway.

To restate my point though, I really do not think there is an issue.  When we get to the point that ARIN has addresses in excess of it's needs I have the utmost faith that the ARIN community will act in the best interests of the global community.  In the final examination that will also be what is best for the local community.

Kevin

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From: Alexander, Daniel [mailto:Daniel_Alexander at Cable.Comcast.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 5:16 PM
To: Kevin Kargel; arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Proposal 2011-6

Hey Kevin,

Do you have any thoughts on where a line could be drawn in the future between what would be retained and what would be returned? Or when?

If the policy is left to address all this later, the wording does send a message to other regions.

I'm really not trying to take sides on this, but want to make sure we think this all the way through.

-Dan

From: Kevin Kargel <kkargel at polartel.com<mailto:kkargel at polartel.com>>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 16:41:34 -0500
To: "arin-ppml at arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>" <arin-ppml at arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Proposal 2011-6



I<http://www.thinkpolar.com/> would suggest this is a case of not crossing ones bridges before one comes to them.

We can what-if ourselves to death and create mountains of unnecessary policy.  The ARIN community is very globally minded and I am sure that if/when these situations arise the community willstep up in a timely manner to deal with them.  Let's not waste time creating solutions to problems that do not exist.

Kevin

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From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Alexander, Daniel
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 4:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Proposal 2011-6

It is understandable that people would want IPv4 resources to stay in the region when they are scarce. But what happens when the ARIN region starts to reach parity with IPv6 services? IPv4 resources will start to lose their urgency in this region, but will still be needed in others.

What happens if the DoD were to return several /8's to ARIN? Is it in the best interest of the global Internet community that the ARIN region not return resources? Does anyone consider this hoarding? If another region were to exhibit similar behavior,this region would be quite vocal in opposition.

Does the current wording implement a double standard?
-Dan

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