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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If I were to draw a line I think it would
be to not return anything less than a complete and contiguous /8 . If I
understand correctly that is the least they will allocate anyway. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>To restate my point though, I really do
not think there is an issue. When we get to the point that ARIN has addresses
in excess of it’s needs I have the utmost faith that the ARIN community will
act in the best interests of the global community. In the final examination
that will also be what is best for the local community.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Alexander,
Daniel [mailto:Daniel_Alexander@Cable.Comcast.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 07, 2011
5:16 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Kevin Kargel;
arin-ppml@arin.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [arin-ppml] Proposal
2011-6</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Hey Kevin,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Do you have any
thoughts on where a line could be drawn in the future between what would be
retained and what would be returned? Or when? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>If the policy is left
to address all this later, the wording does send a message to other
regions. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>I'm really not trying
to take sides on this, but want to make sure we think this all the way
through. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>-Dan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;font-weight:bold'><span
id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION">From: </span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Kevin
Kargel <<a href="mailto:kkargel@polartel.com">kkargel@polartel.com</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Date: </span></b>Thu, 7 Apr 2011 16:41:34
-0500<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To: </span></b>"<a
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>" <<a
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject: </span></b>Re: [arin-ppml] Proposal
2011-6<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><a href="http://www.thinkpolar.com/"><span
style='text-decoration:none'>I</span></a> would suggest this is a case of not
crossing ones bridges before one comes to them. <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>We can what-if ourselves to death and
create mountains of unnecessary policy. The ARIN community is very
globally minded and I am sure that if/when these situations arise the community
willstep up in a timely manner to deal with them. Let’s not waste time
creating solutions to problems that do not exist.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Kevin<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black'> <a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>
[<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net">mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Alexander, Daniel<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 07, 2011
4:29 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [arin-ppml] Proposal
2011-6</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>It is understandable
that people would want IPv4 resources to stay in the region when they are
scarce. But what happens when the ARIN region starts to reach parity with IPv6
services? IPv4 resources will start to lose their urgency in this region, but
will still be needed in others. <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>What happens if the
DoD were to return several /8's to ARIN? Is it in the best interest of the
global Internet community that the ARIN region not return resources? Does
anyone consider this hoarding? If another region were to exhibit similar
behavior,this region would be quite vocal in opposition. <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Does the current
wording implement a double standard?<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>-Dan<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
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