[arin-ppml] IP Address Block Clean up
Kevin Kargel
kkargel at polartel.com
Mon Sep 14 17:18:49 EDT 2009
>
> as i replied on nanog
>
> From: Randy Bush <randy at psg.com>
> Subject: Re: Hijacked Blocks
> To: "Azinger, Marla" <marla.azinger at frontiercorp.com>
> Cc: John Curran <jcurran at arin.net>, North American Network Operators
> Group <nanog at nanog.org>
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 05:47:59 +0900
>
> > I haven't followed this entire string. Are you saying ARIN is
> repeatedly handing out address space to known abusers? If that's the case
> then yes, some form of policy should be worked on.
>
> i might walk more slowly and with a bit less self-righteousness. this
> is not a simple area. are we sure we want the rirs to become the net
> content police? how are they to judge?
>
> e.g., prudent isps act against a customer when there is a court order,
> not when the net gossip says they're bad actors. i.e., the decision
> of
> who is a bad actor is passed on to the society's normal judicial
> process.
>
> randy
I tend to agree with Randy on this one. While it would be wonderful to
squish all the evildoers and make the internet a safe place for everyone, I
do not think it is within the scope of the RiR's mission to police content
or behavior. Starting that philosophy could turn into a real tar baby we
would never escape from.
Once one starts acting to police an issue, the onus of responsibility falls
to them.
ARIN has a job they do very well, we should stick with it.
>
> not that i think that bad actors should not be inhibited. i am just not
> sure the arin is the best way of doing so. perhaps looking at how to
> streamline the judicial process is an avenue that needs to be more fully
> explored before we become the net judges and jury.
>
> [ i also shudder thinking about a discussion here of how many commercial
> emails a day can dance on the head of a spam pin, etc. ]
>
> randy
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