[arin-ppml] Fairness of banning IPv4 allocations to somecategoryof organization

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Mon Oct 12 08:48:08 EDT 2009


Is my home theater amplifier a server?

It answers on port 80 and provides an interface for controlling the  
amplifier.

Owen

On Oct 10, 2009, at 12:30 PM, George, Wes E [NTK] wrote:

> By this definition, yes I think a mobile phone is a workstation.  
> Also, it becomes even moreso when you consider the ability to tether  
> the phone for use as a data modem for a standard PC (carrier rules  
> around tethering notwithstanding of course).
>
> I support this concept of a general limit on embedded device  
> allocations, but since it looks like we're getting close to draft  
> policy language, I think we need to be careful with how we define  
> server - the below could exempt any smart meter or other device that  
> has a web interface for management. I'm not sure whether "provides a  
> content or communications service" covers that possibility...  
> Thoughts? I realize it's ultimately up to interpretation by ARIN  
> employees, but we should be very clear about the spirit behind this  
> policy in order to remove as much confusion as possible in the future.
> I haven't looked through the drafts, but I'm wondering if there  
> isn't actually fodder for the class of device we're trying to cover  
> here in the ROLL or 6LOWPAN IETF WGs that we can incorporate as a  
> reference. The charters seem to have some good stuff.
>
> Wes George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net]  
> On Behalf Of Scott Leibrand
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 3:05 PM
> To: James Hess
> Cc: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Fairness of banning IPv4 allocations to  
> somecategoryof organization
>
> Is a mobile phone a workstation?
>
> On Oct 10, 2009, at 11:22 AM, James Hess <mysidia at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>   A workstation is a host that provides an interactive,
>> general-purpose computing service to at least one unique person who
>> physically interacts with hardware attached to that host.
>>   A server is a host that provides a content or communications
>> service and allows at least one unique human member of the general
>> public  (per host) to fully interact with that service.
>>   A  router is a host that provides an  IPv4  network connection
>> service to at least  two unique IPv4 networks,  or one IPv4 network
>> and one IPv6 network,  where each network services an average of at
>> least two unique workstations, servers, or routers
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