[arin-ppml] Straw Poll

[Kevin Kargel]

We should really be embracing this scenario wholeheartedly.  Right now in
our laps is the killer app we have been looking for that will launch IPv6
into the mainstream.  

This will garner legislative support for overcoming obstacles.  The carrot
of huge contracts for connectivity should certainly spur the ISP's to move
forward with native IPv6.  

Any connectivity for this purpose will of necessity need to be out-of-band
as regards a consumers internet connectivity.  While it would certainly be
in the consumers best interest to facilitate such a network, mandating or
legislating internet connectivity as a pre-requisite to utility connection
is untenable.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Dan White
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 1:26 PM
> To: Fred Baker
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net; RudOlph Daniel
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Straw Poll
> 
> On 06/10/09 10:26 -0700, Fred Baker wrote:
> > I agree with you, but let me reflect some comments I have heard from the
> > Smart Grid side of the house.
> >
> > One thing they are very worried about is running the SG over the
> > Internet. They are interested in control - the term "control freak" has
> > been used - and they don't see the Internet as all that well controlled.
> > That's not universal, of course; The Cisco/Yello thing in Germany uses a
> > subscriber's broadband connection, I believe a DMVPN. But many do want
> > direct connectivity to their customers and the ability to directly
> manage
> > at least some appliances and instruments in subscriber's homes - notably
> > the electric meter.
> 
> Suppose they take that approach... everything's on a private network,
> including "approved" appliances. The meter reports current usage, and each
> appliance reports its need for energy, and what times of the day it need
> it
> - i.e. your futuristic electric car probably doesn't need to charge during
> peak hours.
> 
> What happens when someone compromises their appliances, or their car, to
> game the system?
> 
> Security won't be found in a private network or dependence on the
> ignorance
> of users, but in sound security principals. It shouldn't matter how the
> electric grid communicates - your home grid might choose to use your
> broadband connection is a backup communication medium.
> 
> If properly managed and designed, it would be in a consumer's best
> interest
> to provide accurate information to the grid (because of pricing
> incentives).
> 
> --
> Dan White
> BTC Broadband
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