[arin-ppml] Alternate ways to get IPv4 (Re: Policy Proposal 102: Reduce and Simplify IPv4 Initial Allocations)

Seth Mattinen sethm at rollernet.us
Tue Nov 10 19:42:24 EST 2009

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 > Seth Mattinen wrote:
 >> I don't remember. ARIN would have to find these orgs who are renting
 >> their space out to brokers and revoke it somehow to put a stop to it.
 > No reason to.  ARIN charges org X with the spare space a fee, org X
 > charges org Y who needs space, a fee.  The main thing is that the IP
 > addressing is in use.  All Org's X responsibility to ARIN is that they
 > keep it utilized and maintain the SWIPS on it.
 > Those people aren't the problem.  The problem are the orgs getting
 > the space then doing nothing with it.

I thought we weren't supposed to bypass ARIN to obtain IP addresses? 
i.e. I can't qualify for an /18 via ARIN and probably not my upstreams 
without lying, but I can via these guys because they don't care about 
utilization plans.


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