[arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2009-1: Transfer Policy - Revised andforwarded to the Board
John Sweeting
john.sweeting at twcable.com
Mon May 4 15:09:36 EDT 2009
Thanks for the clarification Ted.
On 5/4/09 3:06 PM, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm at ipinc.net> wrote:
> "we" is the org I'm the POC for, Internet Partners, Inc., as opposed to me
> -not- speaking officially
> for that org (which I normally do on this list) Sorry to not make that more
> clear.
>
> Yes, I saw Daves reply. The fact that 8.3 is "new" does not remove the need
> for the minor
> edits and reorganization of the NRPM text that Dave was referring to, that's
> why we
> support it.
>
> And yes I also know that the Board is going to do what it wants, so it is kind
> of futile to
> even bother commenting in opposition or support at this point. But I don't
> want the board
> to actually start believing it's own back-patting that everything is all fixed
> now.
>
>
> Ted
>
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>> From: John Sweeting [mailto:john.sweeting at twcable.com]
>> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 11:40 AM
>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Member Services; arin ppml
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2009-1: Transfer Policy - Revised
>> andforwarded to the Board
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>> Hi Ted,
>>
>> Please see David Farmer¹s earlier reply to Joe Miller. Also please be more
>> specific on who the ³we² are in your email.
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>> On 5/4/09 1:12 PM, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm at ipinc.net> wrote:
>>
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>>> We still oppose 2009-1 as the removal of the sunset clause by the
>>> Board fundamentally changed the proposal, and the mixture of
>>> "merger" transfers in 8.2 and "unrestricted" transfers in 8.3
>>> did not allow for the community to separately comment and consider
>>> the 2 issues.
>>>
>>> If Section 8.3 was struck out we would not oppose the proposal.
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> > From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net
>>>> > [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Member Services
>>>> > Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:21 AM
>>>> > To: arin ppml
>>>> > Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2009-1: Transfer Policy -
>>>> > Revised and forwarded to the Board
>>>> >
>>>> > The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) met on 29 April 2009 and
>>>> > decided to send a revised version of 2009-1 to the Board for
>>>> > their consideration:
>>>> >
>>>> > Draft Policy 2009-1: Transfer Policy
>>>> >
>>>> > The original 2009-1 is a result of the utilization the
>>>> > Emergency PDP provision of the ARIN Policy Development
>>>> > Process by the ARIN Board of Trustees. The AC was required to
>>>> > make a recommendation about 2009-1 within 5 business days of
>>>> > the conclusion of the discussion period (the discussion
>>>> > period for 2009-1 ended on 29 April 2009). The AC used the
>>>> > feedback from the community on the PPML and at the Public
>>>> > Policy Meeting in San Antonio as guidance in suggesting
>>>> > revisions to the draft policy text. The PDP tasks the Board
>>>> > to review the AC's recommendation.
>>>> >
>>>> > The AC's revised version of 2009-1 is below.
>>>> >
>>>> > The ARIN Policy Development Process is available at:
>>>> >
>>>> > https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> >
>>>> > Member Services
>>>> > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ## * ##
>>>> >
>>>> > Draft Policy 2009-1 Transfer Policy as revised by the AC
>>>> >
>>>> > Originator: ARIN Board of Trustees (using the Emergency PDP
>>>> > provision in the ARIN Policy Development Process)
>>>> >
>>>> > Date: 29 April 2009
>>>> >
>>>> > Policy statement:
>>>> >
>>>> > Replace Section 8 as follows:
>>>> >
>>>> > *8. Transfers*
>>>> >
>>>> > *8.1. Principles*
>>>> > Number resources are non-transferable and are not assignable
>>>> > to any other organization unless ARIN has expressly and in
>>>> > writing approved a request for transfer. ARIN is tasked with
>>>> > making prudent decisions on whether to approve the transfer
>>>> > of number resources.
>>>> >
>>>> > It should be understood that number resources are not "sold"
>>>> > under ARIN administration. Rather, number resources are
>>>> > assigned to an organization for its exclusive use for the
>>>> > purpose stated in the request, provided the terms of the
>>>> > Registration Services Agreement continue to be met and the
>>>> > stated purpose for the number resources remains the same.
>>>> > Number resources are administered and assigned according to
>>>> > ARIN's published policies.
>>>> >
>>>> > Number resources are issued, based on justified need, to
>>>> > organizations, not to individuals representing those
>>>> > organizations. Thus, if a company goes out of business,
>>>> > regardless of the reason, the point of contact
>>>> > (POC) listed for the number resource does not have the
>>>> > authority to sell, transfer, assign, or give the number
>>>> > resource to any other person or organization. The POC must
>>>> > notify ARIN if a business fails so the assigned number
>>>> > resources can be returned to the available pool of number
>>>> > resources if a transfer is not requested and justified.
>>>> >
>>>> > *8.2. Mergers and Acquisitions*
>>>> > ARIN will consider requests for the transfer of number
>>>> > resources in the case of mergers and acquisitions upon
>>>> > receipt of evidence that the new entity has acquired the
>>>> > assets which had, as of the date of the acquisition or
>>>> > proposed reorganization, justified the current entity's use
>>>> > of the number resource. Examples of assets that justify use
>>>> > of the number resource include, but are not limited to:
>>>> >
>>>> > * Existing customer base
>>>> > * Qualified hardware inventory
>>>> > * Specific software requirements.
>>>> >
>>>> > In evaluating a request for transfer, ARIN may require the
>>>> > requesting organization to provide any of the following
>>>> > documents, as applicable, plus any other documents deemed appropriate:
>>>> >
>>>> > * An authenticated copy of the instrument(s) effecting the
>>>> > transfer of assets, e.g., bill of sale, certificate of
>>>> > merger, contract, deed, or court decree.
>>>> > * A detailed inventory of all assets utilized by the
>>>> > requesting party in maintaining and using the number resource.
>>>> > * A list of the requesting party's customers using the number
>>>> > resource.
>>>> >
>>>> > If further justification is required, the requesting party
>>>> > may be asked to provide any of the following, or other
>>>> > supporting documentation, as
>>>> > applicable:
>>>> >
>>>> > * A general listing of the assets or components acquired
>>>> > * A specific description of acquisitions, including:
>>>> >
>>>> > o Type and quantity of equipment
>>>> > o Customer base
>>>> >
>>>> > * A description of how number resources are being utilized
>>>> > * Network engineering plans, including:
>>>> >
>>>> > Host counts
>>>> > Subnet masking
>>>> > Network diagrams
>>>> > Reassignments to customers
>>>> >
>>>> > *8.3 Transfers to Specified Recipients*
>>>> > IPv4 number resources within the ARIN region may be released
>>>> > to ARIN by the authorized resource holder, in whole or in
>>>> > part, for transfer to another specified organizational
>>>> > recipient. Such transferred number resources may only be
>>>> > received under RSA by organizations that are within the ARIN
>>>> > region and can demonstrate the need for such resources, as a
>>>> > single aggregate, in the exact amount which they can justify
>>>> > under current ARIN policies.
>>>> >
>>>> > #####
>>>> >
>>>> > Changes to 2009-1 as revised by the AC:
>>>> >
>>>> > * Removed 2.8 organization definition
>>>> > * Limited to IPv4 address space
>>>> > * Maintained ARIN as the intermediary
>>>> > * Maintained requirement of source and recipient being in region,
>>>> > and explicitly added the RSA requirement
>>>> > *Added text to clarify need must be a single aggregate
>>>> >
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