[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Sunset 2008-6 on schedule

[Owen DeLong]

Ted,
	I don't think anyone was sweeping anything under the rug.  I believe
the board plans to document this decision fully in the policy along with
their public announcement of the decision.

	The fact that my proposal hit the public before the board's  
announcement
is an error on my part, for which I sincerely apologize to the Board  
and to the
community for the confusion it has and will cause.

	I am upset by the board's actions, and, I stand by my proposal, but,  
the
timing error is my fault and not an effort by the board to cover  
anything up.
I have the utmost respect for our board and believe that they are people
of integrity doing what they believe is best for ARIN and the community.

Owen

On Mar 20, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

> I fully support this.
>
> The disregarding of the "For a period of 3 years from policy  
> implementation"
> statement in the policy proposal was NOT mentioned AT ALL in the  
> actual
> records of the policy proposal itself:
>
> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2008_6.html
>
> For THIS REASON ALONE setting aside ALL OTHER discussion I would be
> in favor of Owen's proposal.
>
> The COMPLETE implementation of ANY policy is a sacred trust, and while
> I might condone the ARIN board's actions of removing the sunset clause
> IF AN EXPLANATION WAS SUPPLIED IN THE POLICY RECORD the fact that one
> WAS NOT and NO mention of this appears in the record is, in my  
> opinion,
> far, far worse than the thwarting the will of the community.
>
> It is one thing for ARIN to thwart the will of the community for  
> reasons
> they feel are good and have a logical basis (changed premises, etc.)  
> It is
> ENTIRELY DIFFERENT for them to do so and SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG by NOT
> documenting it in the proposal.
>
> So, are we going to have to now, check and verify every accepted  
> proposal
> against the actual NRPM itself to make sure the board didn't just
> "forget" to include something it didn't like?
>
> Fagh!
>
> Ted
>
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>> Subject: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Sunset 2008-6 on schedule
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>> ARIN received the following policy proposal and is posting it
>> to the Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) in accordance with
>> Policy Development Process.
>>
>> This proposal is in the first stage of the Policy Development  
>> Process.
>> ARIN staff will perform the Clarity and Understanding step.
>> Staff does not evaluate the proposal at this time, their goal
>> is to make sure that they understand the proposal and believe
>> the community will as well.
>> Staff will report their results to the ARIN Advisory Council
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>>
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>>
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>> ## * ##
>>
>>
>> Policy Proposal Name: Sunset 2008-6 on schedule
>>
>> Proposal Originator: Owen DeLong
>>
>> Proposal Version: 1.0
>>
>> Date: 19 March 2009
>>
>> Proposal type: delete
>>
>> Policy term: permanent
>>
>> Policy statement:
>>
>> Effective March 31, 2012, the changes made to the NRPM by
>> policy 2008-6 are to be deleted.
>>
>> Rationale:
>>
>> Part of the policy that the community developed consensus for
>> in 2008-6 included a sunset clause.  The ARIN Board in an
>> unprecedented action chose to discard this clause while
>> approving the remainder of the policy.
>>
>> This proposal is intended to restore the will of the
>> community and ensure that this policy remains temporary as intended.
>>
>> Timetable for implementation: March 31, 2012
>>
>>
>>
>>
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