[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Sunset 2008-6 on schedule

Scott Leibrand scottleibrand at gmail.com
Fri Mar 20 14:07:09 EDT 2009


Ted,

I don't believe that the Board has yet released the record of their 
(very recent) emergency policy action subsequent to adopting 2008-6.  We 
should see something released on that in the near future, and per the 
PDP, will be discussing the action on PPML and at the San Antonio Public 
Policy Meeting.

-Scott (speaking solely for myself, and not yet expressing any opinion 
on any action taken or policy proposed on this subject)

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> I fully support this.
>
> The disregarding of the "For a period of 3 years from policy implementation"
> statement in the policy proposal was NOT mentioned AT ALL in the actual
> records of the policy proposal itself:
>
> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2008_6.html
>
> For THIS REASON ALONE setting aside ALL OTHER discussion I would be
> in favor of Owen's proposal.
>
> The COMPLETE implementation of ANY policy is a sacred trust, and while
> I might condone the ARIN board's actions of removing the sunset clause
> IF AN EXPLANATION WAS SUPPLIED IN THE POLICY RECORD the fact that one
> WAS NOT and NO mention of this appears in the record is, in my opinion,
> far, far worse than the thwarting the will of the community.
>
> It is one thing for ARIN to thwart the will of the community for reasons
> they feel are good and have a logical basis (changed premises, etc.) It is
> ENTIRELY DIFFERENT for them to do so and SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG by NOT
> documenting it in the proposal.
>
> So, are we going to have to now, check and verify every accepted proposal
> against the actual NRPM itself to make sure the board didn't just
> "forget" to include something it didn't like?
>
> Fagh!
>
> Ted
>
>   
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>> Subject: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Sunset 2008-6 on schedule
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>> ARIN received the following policy proposal and is posting it 
>> to the Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) in accordance with 
>> Policy Development Process.
>>
>> This proposal is in the first stage of the Policy Development Process.
>> ARIN staff will perform the Clarity and Understanding step. 
>> Staff does not evaluate the proposal at this time, their goal 
>> is to make sure that they understand the proposal and believe 
>> the community will as well.
>> Staff will report their results to the ARIN Advisory Council 
>> (AC) within 10 days.
>>
>> The AC will review the proposal at their next regularly 
>> scheduled meeting (if the period before the next regularly 
>> scheduled meeting is less than 10 days, then the period may 
>> be extended to the subsequent regularly scheduled meeting). 
>> The AC will decide how to utilize the proposal and announce 
>> the decision to the PPML.
>>
>> In the meantime, the AC invites everyone to comment on the 
>> proposal on the PPML, particularly their support or 
>> non-support and the reasoning behind their opinion. Such 
>> participation contributes to a thorough vetting and provides 
>> important guidance to the AC in their deliberations.
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>> ## * ##
>>
>>
>> Policy Proposal Name: Sunset 2008-6 on schedule
>>
>> Proposal Originator: Owen DeLong
>>
>> Proposal Version: 1.0
>>
>> Date: 19 March 2009
>>
>> Proposal type: delete
>>
>> Policy term: permanent
>>
>> Policy statement:
>>
>> Effective March 31, 2012, the changes made to the NRPM by 
>> policy 2008-6 are to be deleted.
>>
>> Rationale:
>>
>> Part of the policy that the community developed consensus for 
>> in 2008-6 included a sunset clause.  The ARIN Board in an 
>> unprecedented action chose to discard this clause while 
>> approving the remainder of the policy.
>>
>> This proposal is intended to restore the will of the 
>> community and ensure that this policy remains temporary as intended.
>>
>> Timetable for implementation: March 31, 2012
>>
>>
>>
>>
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