[arin-ppml] Alternative to arbitrary transfers

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Kargel [mailto:kkargel at polartel.com] 
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:06 PM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Leo Vegoda; ARIN PPML
> Subject: RE: [arin-ppml] Alternative to arbitrary transfers
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm at ipinc.net]
> > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 3:57 PM
> > To: 'Leo Vegoda'; Kevin Kargel; 'ARIN PPML'
> > Subject: RE: [arin-ppml] Alternative to arbitrary transfers
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net
> > > [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Leo Vegoda
> > > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 11:11 AM
> > > To: Kevin Kargel; ARIN PPML
> > > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Alternative to arbitrary transfers
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe there are other options, too.  What is your 
> alternative to the 
> > > proposal for a transfer policy?
> > >
> > 
> > My alternative is as follows:
> > 
> > 1) ARIN continue to use moral persuasion on the legacy holders who 
> > have excessive assignments but are not paying anything to 
> renumber or 
> > reduce their utilizations and return blocks.
> > 
> > 2) ARIN embark on a project to identify abandoned and stale unused 
> > IPv4, and return it to the assignment pool for reassignment.
> > 
> > 3) ARIN institute a "bounty" program where someone who 
> identifies and 
> > provides supporting paperwork to "prove" a specific IPv4 block is 
> > truly abandoned OR is in use ILLEGALLY is given a credit on their 
> > yearly bill. (ie: the person here is basically doing the work that 
> > ARIN staff would have to do to certify an abandoned block is really 
> > abandoned)
> > 
> > 4) ARIN modify pricing schedules to more closely bring prices of
> > IPv4 addressing in alignment across ALL allocations - in 
> other words, 
> > remove the discount for ISP's with large quantities of IPv4 - and 
> > institute a temporary "credit" program to those ISP's who return 
> > blocks they are already paying for.
> > 
> > Check the current price list - the largest holders pay the least 
> > amount of money per IPv4 address.  Big disincentive to 
> returning IPv4.
> > 
> > 5) ARIN continue to apply good stewardship to IPv4 from these 4 
> > sources such as combining small blocks to larger aggregates 
> before reassignment.
> > 
> > I don't see these alternatives in any way as creating a transfer 
> > market - yet I see them as being able to generate reusable IPv4.
> > I would certainly like to have ARIN give them a try and prove they 
> > DON'T work before embarking on a transfer program.
> > 
> > Ted
> 
> Hooray for Ted!  Good solid suggestions that might even work! 
>  I am not being facetious or sarcastic, I really do think we 
> should look in to his suggestions as a step toward resolving 
> the issues.
> 

Can we take this as an expression of support for 2008-7?   ;-)

Unfortunately, many of these are operational, not policy, issues.
Particularly the fee proposals, an issue near to my heart (as I
don't work at a large ISP who gets the "Costco discount" on IPv4)

Ted