[arin-ppml] Alternative to arbitrary transfers

Kevin Kargel kkargel at polartel.com
Mon Apr 6 17:06:09 EDT 2009



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm at ipinc.net]
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 3:57 PM
> To: 'Leo Vegoda'; Kevin Kargel; 'ARIN PPML'
> Subject: RE: [arin-ppml] Alternative to arbitrary transfers
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net
> > [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Leo Vegoda
> > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 11:11 AM
> > To: Kevin Kargel; ARIN PPML
> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Alternative to arbitrary transfers
> >
> >
> > Maybe there are other options, too.  What is your alternative
> > to the proposal for a transfer policy?
> >
> 
> My alternative is as follows:
> 
> 1) ARIN continue to use moral persuasion on the legacy holders who
> have excessive assignments but are not paying anything to renumber
> or reduce their utilizations and return blocks.
> 
> 2) ARIN embark on a project to identify abandoned and stale unused
> IPv4, and return it to the assignment pool for reassignment.
> 
> 3) ARIN institute a "bounty" program where someone who identifies
> and provides supporting paperwork to "prove" a specific IPv4 block
> is truly abandoned OR is in use ILLEGALLY is given a credit on their
> yearly bill. (ie: the person here is basically doing the work that ARIN
> staff
> would have to do to certify an abandoned block is really abandoned)
> 
> 4) ARIN modify pricing schedules to more closely bring prices of
> IPv4 addressing in alignment across ALL allocations - in other words,
> remove the discount for ISP's with large quantities of IPv4 - and
> institute a temporary "credit" program to those ISP's who return
> blocks they are already paying for.
> 
> Check the current price list - the largest holders pay the least
> amount of money per IPv4 address.  Big disincentive to returning
> IPv4.
> 
> 5) ARIN continue to apply good stewardship to IPv4 from these 4 sources
> such as combining small blocks to larger aggregates before reassignment.
> 
> I don't see these alternatives in any way as creating a transfer
> market - yet I see them as being able to generate reusable IPv4.
> I would certainly like to have ARIN give them a try and prove they
> DON'T work before embarking on a transfer program.
> 
> Ted

Hooray for Ted!  Good solid suggestions that might even work!  I am not
being facetious or sarcastic, I really do think we should look in to his
suggestions as a step toward resolving the issues.


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