[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 2008-2: IPv4 Transfer Policy Proposal -Revised

[Scott Leibrand]

FWIW, the text at issue here is simplified and less restrictive than was 
in the last version of 2008-2.  That text read:

•	The IPv4 block must currently be registered for use within the ARIN 
service area, either as part of an address block assigned by IANA to ARIN, 
or as part of a legacy address block allocated within the ARIN service area.

In addition, we've *removed* the following restrictions from the most 
recent version:

•	The transferor resides in the ARIN service area.
•	The transferee resides in the ARIN service area.

-Scott

Scott Leibrand wrote:
> It doesn't say it must be used in North America.  It says it must be 
> *registered* for use there.  That means it must be registered with ARIN.
> 
> This is not (intended to be) a new restriction: we're just trying to 
> avoid having people come to us with LACNIC, AFRINIC, RIPE, or APNIC 
> space and asking ARIN to transfer it.
> 
> As I mentioned before, suggestions for improved wording are welcome.
> 
> -Scott
> 
> Kevin Kargel wrote:
>> I did not know that there was any way to control geographic use 
>> area..  So
>> far as I know there is no way I can tell my router to deny from 
>> Tanzania..
>> (sorry Tanzania, I don't hate you, I just had to pick somebody)..
>>
>> Is there some BGP trick I don't know about that prevents me from 
>> advertising
>> an out of area network?
>>
>> If it cannot be policed then it shouldn't be in the verbage.  Nothing 
>> will
>> erode authority quicker than making rules you cannot enforce.
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] 
>>> On Behalf Of Scott Leibrand
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:55 AM
>>> To: michael.dillon at bt.com
>>> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
>>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 2008-2: IPv4 Transfer Policy 
>>> Proposal -Revised
>>>
>>> michael.dillon at bt.com wrote:
>>>>> * The IPv4 block must currently be registered for use 
>>> within the ARIN
>>>>> service area.
>>>> What does this mean?
>>> The intent there is that it simply has to be ARIN space.  We're open 
>>> to suggestions for improved wording.
>>>
>>>> Since when does ARIN restrict the use of IP address blocks 
>>> to specific
>>>> geographical regions? Does the ARIN restriction apply only 
>>> to use as a
>>>> source address, or also in the destination address field?
>>>>
>>>> To which organization should one apply if one want to receive IP 
>>>> address blocks which can be used globally without geographic 
>>>> restrictions?
>>> I don't believe IANA has any intent to distribute address space to 
>>> ISPs or end users that can be used globally without geographic 
>>> restrictions.  In the current system, addresses are allocated from 
>>> the registry in the region in which they are primarily to be used, 
>>> and we aren't trying to upset that apple cart just yet.
>>>
>>> -Scott
>>>
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