[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 2008-2: IPv4 Transfer Policy Proposal -Revised

Scott Leibrand sleibrand at internap.com
Thu Sep 18 10:15:06 EDT 2008


It doesn't say it must be used in North America.  It says it must be 
*registered* for use there.  That means it must be registered with ARIN.

This is not (intended to be) a new restriction: we're just trying to avoid 
having people come to us with LACNIC, AFRINIC, RIPE, or APNIC space and 
asking ARIN to transfer it.

As I mentioned before, suggestions for improved wording are welcome.

-Scott

Kevin Kargel wrote:
> I did not know that there was any way to control geographic use area..  So
> far as I know there is no way I can tell my router to deny from Tanzania..
> (sorry Tanzania, I don't hate you, I just had to pick somebody)..
> 
> Is there some BGP trick I don't know about that prevents me from advertising
> an out of area network?
> 
> If it cannot be policed then it shouldn't be in the verbage.  Nothing will
> erode authority quicker than making rules you cannot enforce.
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net 
>> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Scott Leibrand
>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:55 AM
>> To: michael.dillon at bt.com
>> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 2008-2: IPv4 
>> Transfer Policy Proposal -Revised
>>
>> michael.dillon at bt.com wrote:
>>>> * The IPv4 block must currently be registered for use 
>> within the ARIN 
>>>> service area.
>>> What does this mean?
>> The intent there is that it simply has to be ARIN space.  
>> We're open to suggestions for improved wording.
>>
>>> Since when does ARIN restrict the use of IP address blocks 
>> to specific 
>>> geographical regions? Does the ARIN restriction apply only 
>> to use as a 
>>> source address, or also in the destination address field?
>>>
>>> To which organization should one apply if one want to receive IP 
>>> address blocks which can be used globally without geographic 
>>> restrictions?
>> I don't believe IANA has any intent to distribute address 
>> space to ISPs or end users that can be used globally without 
>> geographic restrictions.  In the current system, addresses 
>> are allocated from the registry in the region in which they 
>> are primarily to be used, and we aren't trying to upset that 
>> apple cart just yet.
>>
>> -Scott
>>
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