[arin-ppml] The Library Book Approach to IPv4 Scarcity
tedm at ipinc.net
Wed Oct 29 16:05:12 EDT 2008
> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net
> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Jo Rhett
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:55 PM
> To: Kevin Kargel
> Cc: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] The Library Book Approach to IPv4 Scarcity
> On Oct 29, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Kevin Kargel wrote:
> > Have you ever looked in an ISP's database and found inaccuracies or
> > mistakes? Do you know of ANY database ANYWHERE that is 100%
> > accurate or
> > 100% up to date? ISP's are going to find this exersice trivial as
> > long as
> I see no reason for ARIN policy to make exceptions for the
> inaccuracies in a given ISP's database. This is not my problem, nor
> ARIN's problem.
> >> This is the cost of your IP allocation. It's actually
> right there in
> >> your contract, right now, today. What is being proposed is simply
> >> enforcement of those contractual terms.
> > I already have a cost for my IP allocation.. What I am hearing
> > proposed is
> > a fine (since when did ARIN have authority to assess fines?) if I
> > don't
> > complete my paperwork to meet some administrators approval. I do
> > not need a
> > sword of extra fees hanging over my head and I suspect you don't
> > either.
> Ha. I'd pay the fine and ignore ARIN ;-) I've been saying
> that fines
> won't work, and we don't have it in our contract to take them. We
> should recover the unjustified space.
How do you recover space when the org advertising it does not want to
give it up?
Fact is, I was rather curious myself about these situations
so when we got our portable allocation years ago I kept advertising a /23
of our old blocks after renumbering out of it just to see what would happen.
About a year later the block was finally assigned. Trust me, if I had
wanted to be a jerk about it, it would have gotten pretty bad for the
org that got the numbers.
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