[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 2008-4 - Staff Assessment

[Scott Leibrand]

Interesting stuff.  As all of these are either uninhabited or are 
territories of RIPE and APNIC countries, it sounds to me like no changes 
to the policy are needed.  If anyone representing these locations 
disagrees, please speak up: you'll be the most authoritative one here.  :)

-Scott

Leo Bicknell wrote:
> In a message written on Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 02:07:45PM -0700, Scott Leibrand wrote:
>> Does staff's understanding of the geographic applicability of this policy 
>> proposal match the intent of the authors and supporters?  I'm not sure 
>> whether the Bouvet Islands, US Minor Outlying Islands, St Pierre and 
>> Miquelon, Heard and McDonald Islands and/or St Helena fit within the 
>> intended scope or not...
> 
> I had to research.  With the exception of the US Minor Outlying
> Islands I think the rest would be rather surprised to find that
> they were "Caribbean", at least if climate has anything to do with
> it.  :)
> 
> That said, there is still an interesting question here if they
> should be included in the policy for the same general reasons as
> the Caribbean islands, some info, and my take below.
> 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouvet_Island
> 
>   "Despite being uninhabited, ..."
> 
>   My take: Doesn't really matter.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Minor_Outlying_Islands
> 
>   "The United States Minor Outlying Islands, a statistical designation
>    defined by the International Organization for Standardization's ISO
>    3166-1 code, consists of nine United States insular areas.
> 
>    Palmyra Atoll is the only incorporated territory. As of 2008, none of
>    the islands has any permanent residents. The only population are
>    temporarily stationed scientific and military personnel..."
> 
>   My take: Doesn't really matter.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Pierre_and_Miquelon
> 
>   "The population of Saint-Pierre and Miquelon at the 2006 local census
>    was 6,125 inhabitants."
> 
>   My take: Seems like they would likely have the same issues as the
>            Caribbean.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heard_Island_and_McDonald_Islands
> 
>   "Heard Island and McDonald Islands (abbreviated as HIMI[1]) are barren
>    islands located in the Southern Ocean, about two-thirds of the way from
>    Madagascar to Antarctica, 7718 km due south of Rajapur, Maharashtra,
>    India[2] and approximately 4099 km west of Perth.[3] They have been
>    territories of Australia since 1947..."
> 
>   My take: Why isn't this in APNIC?  It's been an Australia territory
>            since before the RIR system.  I'd like a history lesson as
>            to why this stayed with ARIN.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Helena
> 
>   "Saint Helena has a small population of about 4,250 inhabitants,..."
> 
>   My take: Seems like they would likely have the same issues as the
>            Caribbean.  LACNIC / AfriNIC would seem to make more sense
>            from a geographic point of view, but RIPE from a geopolitical
>            point of view.  Seems a bit odd this one stayed with ARIN as
>            well.
> 
> That was an educational diversion.
> 
> 
> 
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