[ppml] rubber/road

[Heather Schiller]

On Thu, 31 May 2007, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of
>> Jeroen Massar
>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:48 PM
>> To: Randy Bush
>> Cc: Public Policy Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [ppml] rubber/road
>>
>
>>>  how much will it cost me in two years?
>>
>> The amount that is the most of either your IPv4 or the IPv6 one.
>> See a couple of days back where somebody disclosed that.
>>
>
> In 2 years a policy could be submitted and
> approved that would radically raise prices on the IPv6 block and
> require you to pay for both blocks.  As long as both allocations



ARIN fees are NOT set by the public policy process.  ARIN members DO elect 
the Board of Trustees who set the fee structure and could ask potential 
board memebers what the think of the issue.  The community CAN make 
suggestions or requests.. I guess if they are going to do it, ppml will 
likely be the place, but that doesn't make it the right place.  It's the 
Public Policy mailing list.  There is the ARIN-discuss mailing list, where 
fee structure is actually an appropriate topic:

arin-discuss at arin.net

Open to ARIN members only.

Provides a forum for the member community to discuss ARIN-specific issues 
such as fee structures and internal policies.



> (IPv4 and IPv6) are separate, the fear of getting jacked over in
> the future is a real possibility.
>

Why don't you live in fear of getting 'jacked' on v4?  The same people who 
set the fees for v6 are the ones who set the fees for v4.

>
> this is why I suggested a while ago that IPv6 automatically be allocated
> to all paying IPv4 holders.  If the IP registration fee was a lump
> sum that covered both IPv6 and IPv4 allocations, it would be more
> difficult down the road for a price raise on IPv6 to get through.
> (Since that would not exist as a separate 'product' of a RIR)
>

You are combining 2 issues that aren't necesarrily related, fees and 
allocation policy.  The billing structure for v4/v6 doesn't change the 
merits of an allocation policy of everyone who has v4 today automagically 
get v6.  BoT could change the fee structure to have a combined v6/v4 fee 
based on organization so that the fee is reduced, but I still wouldn't 
want to see a 'if you have v4, here's your v6' policy.


>
> Ted
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